Gee... Right here at home...

Yes, which "atheist naysayers" is he referring to? The Evergreen Parks & Recreation District? Or the ones in the City of Denver?

LadyJazzer wrote: Yes, which "atheist naysayers" is he referring to? The Evergreen Parks & Recreation District? Or the ones in the City of Denver?

I don't even think he knows what he/she is talking about nor do I think he/she even read the article or the thread. It's the easy way out... just blame any Christmas display dust-up on the us atheists.

Science Chic wrote:

Arlen wrote: The menorah at Lake House should be allowed. Let the atheist naysayers go to hell.

Atheists don't believe in hell, they'll just go into nothingness.

Naw. They'll go to hell. We do not create reality by wishing it were so or not.
I am fully aware of what an atheist might be, as well as agnostic. It is only a play for the badge of "intellectual".

Wow... If there were a hell, I'd be worried...But since there isn't, ............

On the other hand, if there is a God, and if he sees into the hearts of men, there are a bunch of clowns on here who should be seriously worried, because all he's going to find is the putrid cesspool of hatred, vitriol, hypocrisy, and loathing that lives there...

Me?... I'm going to DisneyWorld....

LadyJazzer wrote: Wow... If there were a hell, I'd be worried...But since there isn't, ............
On the other hand, if there is a God, and if he sees into the hearts of men, there are a bunch of clowns on here who should be seriously worried, because all he's going to find is the putrid cesspool of hatred, vitriol, hypocrisy, and loathing that lives there...

(Or the hearts of woman) Congratulations on attaining your Fourth Step, and sharing it with us on 285 Bound... "Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves" Glad you're here... Lady Jazzer.

LadyJazzer wrote: Wow... If there were a hell, I'd be worried...But since there isn't, ............

On the other hand, if there is a God,

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They had a menorah at the Lake house in previous years. I was there a few times for the lighting. But according to the article the lake house staff did not have the right authority to allow it. They ought to allow it based on that they have been alowed in previous years. Rabbi Brackman is a very charismatic and intelligent person IMO. I hope he sticks to his guns and follows through with this

Did you know that Temble Beth Evergreen is one of only two synagogues in Jefferson County?

I've seen alot of arguments (on other forums) that a lighted tree is actually a Saturnalia or Druid tradition pre-dating Christiainity. Some fundamental Christians quote verses that forbid decorated trees at Christmas as being false idols.

I've even seen trees decorated with lights and small ornaments shaped like menorahs and dredels. It is after all a festival of lights.

The tree is not a Christain symbol, and has been pretty much accepted as a 'holiday' tradition - representing all December holidays.

So, there are no religious symbols at the lakehouse. If they allow the menorah, they're opening themselves up to lawsuits by some nutty Wisconsin group of athiests that'll want to post signs about how there is no God. They'll wind up having to allow nativity scenes, pentagrams and festivus poles.

It's either all or nothing here. Denver and EPR chose nothing.