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Colorado snowpack is significantly below average so far
10 Jan 2012 17:05 #33
by ScienceChic
So I did do a Google search, as you suggested, and to my surprise I found that the article that claims that he "stands by his statements" 10 years later is none other than the dailymail's flat-out wrong The mini ice age starts here article that I debunked already . Considering how much they lied about the research they reported on, I'd say that their claim of Viner "standing by his statements" is too unreliable to believe. Regardless, he is one scientist, not the be-all, end-all authority on what will happen in the future.
But if you'd like to convince me otherwise that global warming is a myth, please bring some credible scientific data, I'd be happy to look it over!
(Sorry PF, to have participated in hijacking your thread into global warming, but they are related...)
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I cite you scientific evidence, and you come back with a blog and newspaper article about one scientist's opinion - do you see why you're not convincing me at all? BTW, this guy is no longer with East Anglia, so this is not another "grand pronouncement from the University of East Anglia" as this came from but one scientist from there and was not an official press release or announcement from the school. But given your past history, I understand your hang-up with anyone associated with them, despite the fact that they've been cleared by more investigations than a murderer is even granted.The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: And from the "man behind the curtain" department... another grand pronouncement from the University of East Anglia...
Climate expert Dr David Viner, who until recently worked at Britain’s world-renowned Climatic Research Unit at the 'famed' University of East Anglia, in 2000 in the Independent made the expert prediction that snow would soon become a “rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.
When asked again a few days ago if he still stuck by his prediction he said Yes". ‘We’ve had three weeks of relatively cold weather, and that doesn’t change anything. ‘This winter is just a little cooler than average, and I still think that snow will become an increasingly rare event.’
http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/forum ... -snow.html
And anyone with a little Google-fu can find the longer and more detailed article by Dr. David Viner... (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain)
So I did do a Google search, as you suggested, and to my surprise I found that the article that claims that he "stands by his statements" 10 years later is none other than the dailymail's flat-out wrong The mini ice age starts here article that I debunked already . Considering how much they lied about the research they reported on, I'd say that their claim of Viner "standing by his statements" is too unreliable to believe. Regardless, he is one scientist, not the be-all, end-all authority on what will happen in the future.
But if you'd like to convince me otherwise that global warming is a myth, please bring some credible scientific data, I'd be happy to look it over!
(Sorry PF, to have participated in hijacking your thread into global warming, but they are related...)
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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10 Jan 2012 17:29 #34
by Photo-fish
I will add:
5. If you are on a public water system, you can have fees added to your bill if you are caught irrigating during water restrictions. (They don't neccessarily have to catch you with a hose in your hand. That device on your water meter keeps record of use at every 20 minute interval and they can monitor it just by driving past your house at any time.) That goes for HOA irrigation accounts, golf courses and rec. district ball fields.
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Good pointslionshead2010 wrote: So a couple of take aways here I see whether we are talking about climate or weather.
1. The aspen tree die off we see may be due to drought and not pocket gophers so no need to poison the little critters.
2. If we don't get good late winter and spring rains and snows then plan on an early fire season. Do your mitigation in March instead of April.
3. Just because your HOA didn't have to plow much snow this year doesn't mean you won't need the money next year so stop the legal fights over stupid sh-t and save up for plowing next year.
4. If wells are already struggling at some homesteads then maybe we don't need hundreds of new homes sucking from the ground at Shaffers Crossing and Pine Junction.
I will add:
5. If you are on a public water system, you can have fees added to your bill if you are caught irrigating during water restrictions. (They don't neccessarily have to catch you with a hose in your hand. That device on your water meter keeps record of use at every 20 minute interval and they can monitor it just by driving past your house at any time.) That goes for HOA irrigation accounts, golf courses and rec. district ball fields.
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