Colorado snowpack is significantly below average so far

07 Jan 2012 09:59 #1 by Photo-fish

No year in the past three decades that has started this far below average has recovered to average snowpack by the start of spring.


http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_19643668

Last year Bear Creek Basin and N. Fork of the S. Platte really got the shaft. It looks worse this year. Anyone plannig on a lawn this summer may want to reconsider. Fire season will be early too. Hopefully we can have avery wet spring and cooler summer.

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07 Jan 2012 12:39 #2 by Martin Ent Inc
Doom, Dispair and agony on you,,,

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07 Jan 2012 13:08 #3 by FredHayek
This is the latest in 30 years that Vail hasn't been able to open thier back bowls! But then again, Wolf Creek is doing well. They always do well. Hopefully we have a spring full of heavy, wet, snows.

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07 Jan 2012 15:23 #4 by Photo-fish

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Doom, Dispair and agony on you,,,


Gee, sorry to bug ya with some current information about our/your local environment. I hope if you or you neighbors' wells start to go dry or there is a fire in your local woods this summer you will not be dispaired. I work in the water industry so this is important to me.

And it is "gloom" not doom.

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07 Jan 2012 15:46 #5 by LadyJazzer
Typical whistling-past-the-graveyard denial from those that drink from the trough of the fossil-fuel-energy spin machine.

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07 Jan 2012 17:03 #6 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: Typical whistling-past-the-graveyard denial from those that drink from the trough of the fossil-fuel-energy spin machine.


Sure... and typical junk science...

Weekly Snowpack data from 11/04/03 to the present for Colorado River Basins

Date Gunnison Upper Col. South Platte Laramie
N Platte Yampa
White Arkansas Upper
Rio Grande San Miguel; Delores
San Juan
Date: S A S A S A S A S A S A S A S A
110403 * 62 * 57 * 52 * 74 * 66 * 75 107 79 * 75
111103 76 80 75 76 54 58 96 95 123 92 59 73 91 83 87 80
111803 107 98 99 93 68 69 106 107 132 118 74 80 113 97 117 101
112503 96 90 93 91 79 71 105 111 122 115 74 78 100 96 101 95
120103 91 92 90 91 70 72 103 108 121 116 70 77 95 91 92 89
120803 93 87 89 86 70 70 103 105 119 112 69 74 92 87 93 87
121503 90 85 88 85 72 69 102 102 115 108 66 74 86 85 87 83

And so on and son on...

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/boulder/snowpack.html


And the caveat at the bottom of the official NOAA chart... "[Pages are for curiosity only; there are no guarantees that the data is correct.]" What a f'king laugh rofllol

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07 Jan 2012 17:23 #7 by Rick

LadyJazzer wrote: Typical whistling-past-the-graveyard denial from those that drink from the trough of the fossil-fuel-energy spin machine.

But when we get an excess of moisture or it's colder than usual, it means nothing. Sorry but you can't have it both ways...besides, this is Colorado and the climate changes more than anywhere in the US.

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07 Jan 2012 17:47 #8 by The Boss
I thought this was about snowpack, not global warming. Colder does not mean more snow, we all know this.

The whole country is getting the shaft, just like next year it could get clobbered (and the US did last year). Not saying there is not global warming, just that if this is related, it is 2nd, 3rd and 10 degree and we can't even agree on the 1st.

I think it is simply not snowing very much recently here....but it might have something to do with politics. The US is not as big as it is shown on maps, same goes for the weather, same goes for Colorado. :wink:

http://naturesblog.blogspot.com/2012/01 ... ought.html

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07 Jan 2012 18:07 #9 by ScienceChic

LLIB wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Typical whistling-past-the-graveyard denial from those that drink from the trough of the fossil-fuel-energy spin machine.

But when we get an excess of moisture or it's colder than usual, it means nothing. Sorry but you can't have it both ways...besides, this is Colorado and the climate changes more than anywhere in the US.

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2 ... tml?ref=hp
Cold Comfort: Frigid Months Will Still Come in a Warming World
by Sid Perkins on 23 November 2011

In a world plagued by gradual warming, there will still be cold months—even ones with record cold temperatures, although they'll be far less frequent than they are now, a new study suggests.

December 2010 was the coldest December in northwestern Europe for more than a century. Although such cold periods may seem incompatible with the notion of global warming, they're not, says Jouni Räisänen, a climate scientist at the University of Helsinki. They're just a matter of statistics.

http://www.globalchange.gov/publication ... hange#key8

Precipitation has increased an average of about 5 percent over the past 50 years. Projections of future precipitation generally indicate that northern areas will become wetter, and southern areas, particularly in the West, will become drier.


http://www.climatecentral.org/news/risi ... ck-decline
Global Warming Brings Unusual Springtime Snowpack Decline in the West, New Study Finds
Published: June 9th, 2011

The study:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/333/6040/332.full
The Unusual Nature of Recent Snowpack Declines in the North American Cordillera
Published Online June 9 2011
Science 15 July 2011:
Vol. 333 no. 6040 pp. 332-335
DOI: 10.1126/science.1201570

In western North America, snowpack has declined in recent decades, and further losses are projected through the 21st century. Here, we evaluate the uniqueness of recent declines using snowpack reconstructions from 66 tree-ring chronologies in key runoff-generating areas of the Colorado, Columbia, and Missouri River drainages. Over the past millennium, late 20th century snowpack reductions are almost unprecedented in magnitude across the northern Rocky Mountains and in their north-south synchrony across the cordillera. Both the snowpack declines and their synchrony result from unparalleled springtime warming that is due to positive reinforcement of the anthropogenic warming by decadal variability.


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07 Jan 2012 18:21 #10 by Martin Ent Inc
We have been here probably longer than anyone on this board and there have always been those that see the end, or the bottom of the glass. We have seen dry times and wet. Where we live it is pretty hard for our wells to run dry. (best water in PC)
And for some reason the Great Spirit has always seen us through. Hell it ain't even spring yet.

Last year we had the OMG its so dry we are gonna burn down, then what,,, a wet spring and summer.

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