Reflections of Roe vs. Wade

Funny, I keep thinking the same thing about you.

Arlen wrote: You are merely rationalizing the "moral" baseline of liberals.

It is simple:
Liberals seek the best interest of perpetrators.
Conservatives seek justice for victims.

No amount of verbal gymnastics on your part will change this fact.

And you are merely rationalizing the "amoral, hypocritical, illogical" baseline of conservatives. Yes, it is simple; some, but not all, Liberals seek justice rather than state sanctioned murder. Conservatives seek their own individual "moral compass/fiber" rather than rational thought and/or action.

No amount of verbal gymnastics on your part will change THESE facts, either!

zhawke wrote:

Arlen wrote: You are merely rationalizing the "moral" baseline of liberals.

It is simple:
Liberals seek the best interest of perpetrators.
Conservatives seek justice for victims.

No amount of verbal gymnastics on your part will change this fact.

And you are merely rationalizing the "amoral, hypocritical, illogical" baseline of conservatives. Yes, it is simple; some, but not all, Liberals seek justice rather than state sanctioned murder. Conservatives seek their own individual "moral compass/fiber" rather than rational thought and/or action.

No amount of verbal gymnastics on your part will change THESE facts, either!

This sounds like you are on a rant, not an exchange of reason and consideration.

Arlen wrote: This sounds like you are on a rant, not an exchange of reason and consideration.

Call it a frog - I don't care. It's nothing more or less than what you've had to offer thus far.

I rationally explained the situation:
Liberals are for abortion (murder) of babies (victims) by their mothers (perpetrators).
Liberals are for the abolition of the death penalty (justice) of murders (perpetrators) despite the death (murder) of their victim.

Conservatives are against abortion (murder) of babies (victims) by their mothers (perpetrators).
Conservatives are against the abolition of the death penalty (justice) of murders (perpetrators) despite the death (murder) of their victim.

Please point out my error in this.

Arlen wrote: I rationally explained the situation:
Liberals are for abortion (murder) of babies (victims) by their mothers (perpetrators).
Liberals are for the abolition of the death penalty (justice) of murders (perpetrators) despite the death (murder) of their victim.

Conservatives are against abortion (murder) of babies (victims) by their mothers (perpetrators).
Conservatives are against the abolition of the death penalty (justice) of murders (perpetrators) despite the death (murder) of their victim.

Please point out my error in this.

According to you, it's "error" if one doesn't agree with your position(s). You haven't offered any factual data to back up your claims. You use a "broad brush" approach in stating your opinions. You pose your opinions as being statements of "fact", which, thus far, you have not proven in any way, shape, or form. I've stated my opinions, as well - the difference between the two of us is that I've stated my opinions as opinions, nothing more. You've presented yours as if they are cast in stone, which they are not. Ball's in your court.

Those facts were stated earlier by posts from liberals. They defend the mother (perpetrator) in abortion. The subject of the death penalty was brought up as being wrong for the murderer (perpetrator). I did not introduce those facts, I merely arranged them so that we can view them in reality.

You introduce no reasoning, just a few rants, then state that the ball is in my court. You overestimate the effectiveness of your rants.

Arlen wrote: Those facts were stated earlier by posts from liberals. They defend the mother (perpetrator) in abortion. The subject of the death penalty was brought up as being wrong for the murderer (perpetrator). I did not introduce those facts, I merely arranged them so that we can view them in reality.

You introduce no reasoning, just a few rants, then state that the ball is in my court. You overestimate the effectiveness of your rants.

So, by your reasoning ALL liberals defend the mother (perpetrator) in abortion, and ALL liberals support the murderer in lieu of death by lethal injection or the electric chair or hanging or firing squad? You call my injections "rants", yet offer no factual data to back up your positions. It doesn't matter whether someone posted earlier. I'm asking you to provide factual evidence to support your claims, that's all. I feel very calm right now, contrary to what a "rant" connotes. Again, to use a "blanket" statement to rationalize a broad brush assertion that ALL liberals can be grouped into one category is tantamount to doing the same for conservatives - it shouldn't be done (please note I did NOT say or even intimate that it MUST NOT be done).

zhawke wrote: So, by your reasoning ALL liberals defend the mother (perpetrator) in abortion, and ALL liberals support the murderer in lieu of death by lethal injection or the electric chair or hanging or firing squad? You call my injections "rants", yet offer no factual data to back up your positions. It doesn't matter whether someone posted earlier. I'm asking you to provide factual evidence to support your claims, that's all. I feel very calm right now, contrary to what a "rant" connotes. Again, to use a "blanket" statement to rationalize a broad brush assertion that ALL liberals can be grouped into one category is tantamount to doing the same for conservatives - it shouldn't be done (please note I did NOT say or even intimate that it MUST NOT be done).

Liberal = one category. Liberal is a category. My goodness, don't you know that?
Conservative is a category.
Alive is a category.
Dead is a category.
Blue is a category.
Unregistered is a category.

Just how stupid are you?

Arlen wrote: Liberal = one category. Liberal is a category. My goodness, don't you know that?
Conservative is a category.
Alive is a category.
Dead is a category.
Blue is a category.
Unregistered is a category.

Just how stupid are you?

Funny you should ask - I was about to ask you the same thing.

Category: defined as "a class or group of things, people, etc., possessing some quality or qualities in common". Yes, your assertion that liberal is a category and that conservative is a category is true. However, the key word in the definition of "category" is "some". Degrees of inclusion are the order of the day. Some liberals are more conservative than others, and some conservatives are more liberal than others. There are varying degrees of being "alive". There are probably no degrees of being "dead". There are varying hues of the color "blue". Being "unregistered" has different meanings, as well. The manner in which you made the statements you did lead me, myself, and I to conclude you grouped ALL liberals into one very specific group (couldn't be more false). Same with conservatives. As Thomas Paine once said, "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead". Just how stupid are YOU?