Top Military Brass Making More in Pension than Pay

04 Feb 2012 21:48 #51 by otisptoadwater
Once again you avoid the question. No surprise. If you can't fly a sea plane wouldn't that mean you can only fly over land? Have a few more bong hits and get back to me on that logic.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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04 Feb 2012 21:50 #52 by otisptoadwater
Come back to the facts. You were caught in a bold faced lie and you won't give one honest answer. Just post that you are a liar and I'll leave you alone.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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04 Feb 2012 21:55 #53 by UNDER MODERATION
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OK, thats enough! This thread is not about me or my avation exploits..A lot of people have taken a ride with the Blue Angels, it doesnt mean they are claiming to be Blue Angel pilots..

Now back to the Subject..I am one of the greatest pilots that ever lived..I landed a plane at Valkayria Airport in 8 feet..It was a controlled crash and perhapes one of the shortest landing in recorded history..When I opened the door and looked back the tail was hanging over the grass at the end of the runway..I parrelel parked an airplane..The struts were completely compressed and the windshield was cracked, but I did it..

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04 Feb 2012 21:56 #54 by UNDER MODERATION
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otisptoadwater wrote: Once again you avoid the question.



Whats the question? I really think you don't even know what your asking..I sure don't..Dumb it down for me? You got one chance

One coherant question..GO

Is this what you want?

I don't remember 5000 tail numbers, and I haven't seen that log book in 20 years

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04 Feb 2012 22:01 #55 by otisptoadwater

Vice Lord wrote: OK, thats enough! This thread is not about me or my avation exploits..A lot of people have taken a ride with the Blue Angels, it doesnt mean they are claiming to be Blue Angel pilots..

Now back to the Subject..I am one of the greatest pilots that ever lived..I landed a plane at Valkayria Airport in 8 feet..It was a controlled crash and perhapes one of the shortest landing in recorded history..When I opened the door and looked back the tail was hanging over the grass at the end of the runway..I parrelel parked an airplane..The struts were completely compressed and the windshield was cracked, but I did it..


Just so you can't come back later and edit your post...

The truth was too much eh? Frankly I'm surprised that you didn't make another girly call to the mods to "lock the thread."

Ok, I'll open a new thread in the Ring so you can explain yourself or admit to being a lying sack of festering excrement.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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04 Feb 2012 22:01 #56 by UNDER MODERATION
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Vice Lord wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote: VL, The scan of the license you posted (and who knows if it is really yours) states the bearer was qualified for a single engine aircraft on instruments and only over land. .




Ha ha ha ......There is no pilots license that only allows you to fly over land only ... lol Thats not what that means..It means you cant fly a sea plane...

F-ing moron


And..And Instrument rating is a very advance thing- It means you can fly across country without ever looking outside...Its very hard and quite an acomplishment at such a young age..I was considered a prodigy

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04 Feb 2012 22:08 #57 by UNDER MODERATION
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otisptoadwater wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: OK, thats enough! This thread is not about me or my avation exploits..A lot of people have taken a ride with the Blue Angels, it doesnt mean they are claiming to be Blue Angel pilots..

Now back to the Subject..I am one of the greatest pilots that ever lived..I landed a plane at Valkayria Airport in 8 feet..It was a controlled crash and perhapes one of the shortest landing in recorded history..When I opened the door and looked back the tail was hanging over the grass at the end of the runway..I parrelel parked an airplane..The struts were completely compressed and the windshield was cracked, but I did it..


Just so you can't come back later and edit your post...

The truth was too much eh? Frankly I'm surprised that you didn't make another girly call to the mods to "lock the thread."

Ok, I'll open a new thread in the Ring so you can explain yourself or admit to being a lying sack of festering excrement.


I was coming straight down, the stall warning light was on and buzzing the entire time..Full alerion deflection one way, full rudder the other..It's called a slip...I held the plane one knot above stall speed (47 knots if I remember correctly, maybe 43) during the entire approach..Pull back just a skillameter too much and I woulda fell right outta the sky...I flew the approach on the razors edge of a stall, with full flaps- The flaps on a pa-28 140 are spring loaded so when i got about 10 to feet feet over the ground I sucked up the flaps and the aircraft just fell right to the ground like a stone..Bang!! I hit hard and hit with my feet on the brakes..It bounced and stopped..My friend who I dumped at the end of the runway thought it was insane, and it was... lol


I got back to Melbourne, parked the plane on the flight line and left..It was sittin a little funny and the winndshield was cracked..Never heard another thing about it

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04 Feb 2012 22:26 #58 by navycpo7

Vice Lord wrote:

navycpo7 wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: Ah..I was a 21 or 22 year old college student, so I wasn't in a squadren (?) and they showed me the lever to pull if instructed to eject....Thats it. I was a highly educated and skilled pilot at the time, I was a flight instructor and I think I had a 727 type rating at the time so the A-10 was not complicated in any way. It's a very forgiving aircraft that any novice could fly..


I was being recruited because they obviously thought I had the right stuff...Just like my father.


OK let me see if I can explain this to you in simple terms. A military aircraft regardless of service, regardless of type of aircraft and regardless of its status unless decommissioned, is in a squadron. The second issue, prior to flying in a military aircraft for a instructional ride or any other type a civilian(you) would have gone through a 1 day or 2 day indoctrination course on the aircraft.

Now here is the kicker, There has never been an A 10 squadron at Patrick AFB. It has never been a base with combat aircraft assigned there. There were other things going on there, which my first ship while I was onboard did there and off the coast there. Patrick AFB was and still is part of space wing. There is also a Air Force Rescue Sqd there that flies HC-130P/N "King" variant of the C-130 Hercules and HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopter. The Base use to be a Naval Air Station during WWII supporting seaplanes. That is it. It is more of a missle test facility along with a few others things these days. Ya really should quit lying about this type stuff.


Listen..I lived a few miles from there for four years..I flew in that airspace just about everday for 4 years..It was full of A-10's, the whole time I was there...When I went to parties there we drove right on the field and there were A-10 lined up there all the time..Thats all I know-I also saw F4 Phantoms and f-15's 16's or 18's (I don't remember now) there..all the time..They had 4 armed guards around each of one of those planes at all times- They were the best we had at the time (the f-16 maybe?)and at the time we were in the cold war- The military doesn't publicize when and where their stuff is.. lol

Who's lyin now?


You are, Better look when the 18's came out, the US Air Force though do not fly the 18's they are Navy and Marine Corps. The first test flight was 1978 and they were introducded to the military in 1983. There is also no way you partied there and just drove right onto the runway. If all those aircraft were there it did not happen. They also would not have 4 armed security around each aircraft. They just close off the hanger areas and no one is allowed in without clearance which you had none. There also were no A-10 squadrons at Patrick AFB and no other combat squadron either. Especially since Patrick AFB is a missle test facility, they also launched manned and unmanned rockets into space from there. You need to get back to reality, you also never flew in a two seater A10 either.

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04 Feb 2012 22:57 #59 by navycpo7

Vice Lord wrote:

Vice Lord wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote: VL, The scan of the license you posted (and who knows if it is really yours) states the bearer was qualified for a single engine aircraft on instruments and only over land. .




Ha ha ha ......There is no pilots license that only allows you to fly over land only ... lol Thats not what that means..It means you cant fly a sea plane...

F-ing moron


And..And Instrument rating is a very advance thing- It means you can fly across country without ever looking outside...Its very hard and quite an acomplishment at such a young age..I was considered a prodigy


IFR flying is not a very advance thing. Its all about training. Alot of military pilots get trained for this. They have to since they fly in all kinds of weather.

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04 Feb 2012 23:27 #60 by UNDER MODERATION
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navycpo7 wrote:

Vice Lord wrote:

Vice Lord wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote: VL, The scan of the license you posted (and who knows if it is really yours) states the bearer was qualified for a single engine aircraft on instruments and only over land. .




Ha ha ha ......There is no pilots license that only allows you to fly over land only ... lol Thats not what that means..It means you cant fly a sea plane...

F-ing moron


And..And Instrument rating is a very advance thing- It means you can fly across country without ever looking outside...Its very hard and quite an acomplishment at such a young age..I was considered a prodigy


IFR flying is not a very advance thing. Its all about training. Alot of military pilots get trained for this. They have to since they fly in all kinds of weather.



Wow, really? No I would say ALL of them are instrument rated..

Lets stop the bickering..The Military is good, we need defense, I just think we are spending too much on it right now

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