What Is Obama Going To Do About Record High Gas Prices?

LadyJazzer wrote: What they like even more is vehicles that get 55+mpg... Then you would only have to fill your tank every other week (in most cases)... Wow... What a socialist (read: anti-capitalist) thing to force upon the American people! Lower gas costs coming out of their budgets! That scoundrel !!!

But, hey, Newt says if he's elected president he'll bring the price-at-the-pump down to $2.50/gal... I don't know how he expects to force the energy companies and market forces to do that... By the sheer force of his flatulence?

You were just saying Obama doesn't have the power to change regional gas blends, but his EPA does have the power to increase fleet fuel standards for car manufacturers. It is supposed to be 55MPG in a couple years after Obama is gone. So people who want to buy a low mileage truck actually pay a gas guzzler tax and people who do buy high mileage cars like the Honda Fit pay less than actual cost so that the fleet gas mileage rises.

More wealth distribution from the Obama presidency.

Oh, the horror... And as the older vehicles disappear from the inventory on the road, people will save money on fuel... That bastard!

What "gas guzzler tax"?... You mean having to buy fuel more often, and more of it because the mileage isn't as good? Well, duh... I guess it happens. (I'm old enough to remember when the cars of the 50's and 60's were coming to the end of their useful lives and "UNLEADED" gas was introduced!...Oh, the horror...) Yes, I guess it was "wealth redistribution" for people to have to give up their leaded gas cars and start using unleaded gas...

You can't make this stuff up... rofllol rofllol

The car maufacturers charge a premium price for low mileage cars and trucks even before you get to paying extra for gasoline and diesel. It is wealth distribution, but not based on income.
The poor blue collar guy who needs a work truck pays a premium while the trendy hedge fund millionaire driving a Fiat isn't paying full price.
And the people out here in the West who drive long distances to work have to pay gas taxes while the east coast urban folk get subsidized Amtrak & commuter rail.

Boy, sometimes life just isn't fair...and it sux to be you... (I wonder how many years that east coast urban subsidizing with Amtrak & commuter rail thing has been going on?) You'd better pack up and move back to the east coast RIGHT NOW so you can get your share! May I offer to buy your ticket?

I think I remember the newer "unleaded gas" cars costing a little more too, at the time... Yep, no doubt about it--newer technology is wealth-redistribution. Dang, you just can't win, can you?

LadyJazzer wrote: Boy, sometimes life just isn't fair...and it sux to be you... (I wonder how many years that east coast urban subsidizing with Amtrak & commuter rail thing has been going on?) You'd better pack up and move back to the east coast RIGHT NOW so you can get your share! May I offer to buy your ticket?

I think I remember the newer "unleaded gas" cars costing a little more too, at the time... Yep, no doubt about it--newer technology is wealth-redistribution. Dang, you just can't win, can you?

So LJ & Obama are going to advise cash strapped citizens paying record high gas prices to suck it up! Talk about compassionate Dems.
"You don't have jobs to drive to anyway thanks to Obamanomics, you don't need gas."

I don't remember Bush and his energy-company buddies doing anything for cash-strapped citizens in 2008 except telling them to suck it up... Where was your outrage then?

Yep, no doubt about it--newer technology is wealth-redistribution. Dang, you just can't win, can you?

That offer to buy your ticket still stands.... (One-way, of course...)

Drill, baby drill! And Obama and his cohorts try to shut down domestic drilling.

LJ,
Actually the east coast is full of lefties, so it would be a better fit for you.

FredHayek wrote: LJ,
Actually the east coast is full of lefties, so it would be a better fit for you.

I'm not the one bitching about the perks and the Amtrak that they get. I'm perfectly happy here.

If it bothers you so much, you should move to where you don't feel so discriminated against.

Yep, no doubt about it--newer technology is wealth-redistribution. Dang, you just can't win, can you?

Hey if everybody drives 10% less we can save we can save 10% of fuel and lower demand thus lowering prices....this is without changing fuel economy. This is just like you can build a house with half the surface area of wall (aka a small house) and save 50% of the energy without insulating more.

I am not proposing any new regs...but we like to pretend we retain freedom because we can build as big of a house as we would like or drive all we want, but then we want to conserve so we push for better gas milage stds and insulation levels.

But in both cases, total energy used equals consumption per unit TIMES the number of units. Both are proportional to the total and unless you control both you will not make a change and unless you control neither, you don't actually have the right to choose.

SO make sure if you want to save energy and you talk about fuel eff. stds. that you also talk about limits on miles or total gallons or something. Otherwise it is just an arguement for more regs with no effect. I don't want this, but it would be consistent with the cause. But we don't like consistency around here do we, thus ingore. Perhaps we can get rid of all energy standards and replace them with one, the total amount of BTU's or carbon you can have as a citizen per year. But then you cannot choose and that is unamerican....