The Go Nowhere Generation

12 Mar 2012 12:51 #11 by BearMtnHIB
Yea right.....

Federal Government employees hit an all time high last year.......

All time frickin HIGH!!

The era of big government has returned with a vengeance, in the form of the largest federal work force in modern history.

The Obama administration says the government will grow to 2.15 million employees this year, topping 2 million for the first time since President Clinton declared that “the era of big government is over” and joined forces with a Republican-led Congress in the 1990s to pare back the federal work force.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/2/burgeoning-federal-payroll-signals-return-of-big-g/?page=all

And P.S. reagan thought the government was way too big back then. Since then the federal budget has grown from 1 trillion to nearly 4 trillion dollars, a 400% bigger government.

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12 Mar 2012 13:19 #12 by Something the Dog Said

BearMtnHIB wrote: Yea right.....

Federal Government employees hit an all time high last year.......

All time frickin HIGH!!

The era of big government has returned with a vengeance, in the form of the largest federal work force in modern history.

The Obama administration says the government will grow to 2.15 million employees this year, topping 2 million for the first time since President Clinton declared that “the era of big government is over” and joined forces with a Republican-led Congress in the 1990s to pare back the federal work force.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/2/burgeoning-federal-payroll-signals-return-of-big-g/?page=all
Typical conservative lies. that 2010 article referenced the increase as a result of the temporary census workers who left the federal workforce in 2011. There has actually been an overall decrease, despite the necessity of adding more workers to service the military and increased population growth. The largest increase has been in VA employees due to care for our military veterans. Under Reagan, despite your lie that there was 1/4 the number of federal employees, there was one federal employee per 110 Americans, under President Obama, there is one federal employee per 158 Americans, an almost 50 percent decrease in federal employees per Americans.
And P.S. reagan thought the government was way too big back then. Since then the federal budget has grown from 1 trillion to nearly 4 trillion dollars, a 400% bigger government.


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12 Mar 2012 13:27 #13 by BearMtnHIB

Something the Dog Said wrote:

BearMtnHIB wrote: Yea right.....

Federal Government employees hit an all time high last year.......

All time frickin HIGH!!

The era of big government has returned with a vengeance, in the form of the largest federal work force in modern history.

The Obama administration says the government will grow to 2.15 million employees this year, topping 2 million for the first time since President Clinton declared that “the era of big government is over” and joined forces with a Republican-led Congress in the 1990s to pare back the federal work force.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/2/burgeoning-federal-payroll-signals-return-of-big-g/?page=all
Typical conservative lies. that 2010 article referenced the increase as a result of the temporary census workers who left the federal workforce in 2011. There has actually been an overall decrease, despite the necessity of adding more workers to service the military and increased population growth. The largest increase has been in VA employees due to care for our military veterans. Under Reagan, despite your lie that there was 1/4 the number of federal employees, there was one federal employee per 110 Americans, under President Obama, there is one federal employee per 158 Americans, an almost 50 percent decrease in federal employees per Americans.
And P.S. reagan thought the government was way too big back then. Since then the federal budget has grown from 1 trillion to nearly 4 trillion dollars, a 400% bigger government.


Can you please straighten out you're post- it looks like you are quoting stuff I did not post. Quite the mess.

The federal government is 400% larger than it was in 1985- the budget has gone from 1 trillion to 4 trillion since then. Reagan thought that the 1 trillion figure was too big- Obama thinks the 4 trillion dollar figure is too small

See the difference?

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12 Mar 2012 14:08 #14 by Something the Dog Said
Actually, the federal budget went by a record percentage under Reagan. And he was not having to conduct two wars that he had inherited, and a war on terrorism that he inherited from the previous Republican administration.

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12 Mar 2012 14:50 #15 by FredHayek
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It is always interesting to see how these threads go. Supposed to be about slacker kids, but winds up debating obama v. Reagan. Gasoline is still pretty cheap compared to the inflation we see elsewhere like college tuitions. I think part of this is the enabling of parents. When you have only one or 2 Kids in a bigger house, just let him stay. Might even prove helpful st times to figure out your new smart phone. And some ethnic groups prefer multi-generational living.

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12 Mar 2012 14:51 - 12 Mar 2012 14:53 #16 by BearMtnHIB
No- Reagan only had to fight the Cold War- which he won by the way. Best money ever spent.

The money Reagan spent on the Cold War has paid us back 10 fold. That's somthing we will never be able to say about the trillions that Obama has pissed away.

But yea- this thread is supposed to be about the lazy -self entitled brats that today's parents are raising.

God help us.

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12 Mar 2012 14:53 #17 by Something the Dog Said
So far you have lied that Reagan only had 1/4 the percentage of federal workers as present, that Reagan reduced government spending, etc? Can you tell the truth about anything?

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12 Mar 2012 15:04 #18 by LOL
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FredHayek wrote: It is always interesting to see how these threads go. Supposed to be about slacker kids, but winds up debating obama v. Reagan. Gasoline is still pretty cheap compared to the inflation we see elsewhere like college tuitions. I think part of this is the enabling of parents. When you have only one or 2 Kids in a bigger house, just let him stay. Might even prove helpful st times to figure out your new smart phone. And some ethnic groups prefer multi-generational living.


I agree, I think it is more the parents raising the slacker spoiled kids in some cases. I've observed it with some of my friends kids. Some things are tougher now like college expenses, and fewer manufacturing and construction jobs. Some things are cheaper though, I paid $2500 for my first laptop computer in the 80s. Owning a newer car is probably more expensive now though, we used to just drive old beaters with cheap insurance.

Also, a lot of the destinations like California, Vegas, and Florida aren't maybe as appealing as they used to be. Now its North Dakota or maybe Texas, who wants to move there? :)

As for the risk aversion, and staying put, it may also have something to do with the entitlement society and 2 years of extended unemployment, and expanded food stamps, etc. Probably easier to apply for and keep these benefits close to home.

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12 Mar 2012 16:31 #19 by LOL
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And here is another side of the coin.

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-14-old-bu ... -news.html

14-year old girl invests in distressed real estate in Florida, with money she earned selling items on craigslist. Good for her! Bet she ends up being a successful wealthy 1%-er when she grows up. Age 14! Greedy Capitalist! :)

After Willow Tufano earned $6,000 from antiquing and selling items on Craigslist, the 14-year-old asked her mom if she could invest in half of a short sale in her home state of Florida.....
With her saved money, she didn't want to buy or barter for another longboard skate board or Xbox. Instead she set her sights on a three-bedroom short sale of $12,000 that was worth about $100,000 at the peak of the housing market


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12 Mar 2012 16:55 #20 by PrintSmith

Something the Dog Said wrote: So far you have lied that Reagan only had 1/4 the percentage of federal workers as present, that Reagan reduced government spending, etc? Can you tell the truth about anything?

Lord you just have to love how "progressives" talk about "record profits" in dollars for corporations and then want to use percentages instead of dollars when talking about the amount the deficit has been raised under Obama's watch. The only person that is fooling is you Dog.

Yes, the population has increased faster than the number of federal employees over that period of time Dog, which is why, expressed as the number of workers per citizen the number has gone down. Extrapolating from your numbers however, the total number of federal employees is greater now than it was during the Reagan years. In 1980 there were 226.5 million people living in the United States, today that number is 308.7 million - a 36% increase in population. I could pull the same numbers trick with the number of people currently in uniform and say that the military shouldn't be cut because we have fewer people defending the nation now than we did during the Reagan years when expressed as a ratio of uniformed service members per person. I could point out that the DoD budget, expressed as a percentage of the overall budget, is also smaller now than it was during the Reagan years.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure Dog - the raw numbers prove absolutely nothing when removed from any semblance of context as you are so fond of doing.

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