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archer wrote: No it isn't socialism, and I didn't say it was the solution. Nice deflection though. The question was how do the Republicans spin putting thousands of government employees out of work and increasing the unemployment numbers? All we hear is how Romney will create jobs, but reducing the size of government will destroy jobs
Looks like Otis answered this one already.otisptoadwater wrote: Well, let's see... If Gubment is smaller and more efficient then they need less revenue to operate. That would mean that the 99% would be able to keep more of their own money and do crazy things like start new businesses and invest in other companies that are succeeding. Imagine being able to pay off debts and not need to be as dependent on credit.
Or we could go the other way, everyone works for the Gubment and everyone in the 99% gets what the Gubment decides they should have. North Korea and Cuba are examples of how that model works.
A statement that unrealistic is hardly an answer.
.....read my previous post.....trickle down economics has never worked......although the right does love to pretend that it will ......someday......maybe......they hope.
So I ask again....how will the Republicans sell the American people on the idea of reducing the size of government, throwing thousands out of work, and increasing unemployment?
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But you are contradicting yourself, you want a balanced budget but if it means cutting goverment employees you are for massivly increasing the US debt levels.archer wrote: Uh Fred.....what does your post have to do with putting government employees out of work? You are like the third conservative who seems to think that lowering taxes across the board will solve all our economic problems, but wont answer the actual question.
But I will answer some of yours......I was against the Bush tax cuts from day 1. I'm a fiscal conservative....Bush was given a surplus...it should have been saved for future issues or used to pay down debt.
I don't think Kennedy would approve of the 1% paying a smaller percentage in taxes than the middle class....
Where did I ever say I didn't think my own taxes shouldn't be raised? I think all the Bush tax cuts should go away.
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LOL wrote: I did answer, sorry you didn't like the answer. Go back and re-read it.
I re-read all your posts in this thread, not one answered the question of how the Republicans plan to explain to the voters that reducing the size of government will put thousands out of work and raise unemployment. I don't care how many jobs they think they will create in the private sector......if they even will.....that doesn't negate the fact that shrinking government WILL cause unemployment to rise......It seems to me that this fact is the elephant in the room when it comes to Republicans claiming that Romney will create jobs and lower unemployment(pun intended)
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archer wrote: Are you saying we cant have a balanced budget without cutting government employees Fred? Really? They are not a large part of the federal budget. You balance a budget by working on both sides of the ledger....expenses AND income. I see no contradiction in what I posted. You don't fix big economic problem's by going after the little guys.
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The rich don't pay a smaller percentage of taxes - quite the opposite in fact. The top 10% pay the highest percentage of the taxes levied by all levels of government. The top 1% pay double the percentage of income taxes that their income represents (20% of the AGI and 38% of the income taxes). For the top 10%, they take in 46% of the AGI and pay 70% of the income tax burden. How is it that you came to the belief that they pay a smaller percentage of the taxes archer?archer wrote: I was against the Bush tax cuts from day 1. I'm a fiscal conservative....Bush was given a surplus...it should have been saved for future issues or used to pay down debt.
I don't think Kennedy would approve of the 1% paying a smaller percentage in taxes than the middle class....
Where did I ever say I didn't think my own taxes shouldn't be raised? I think all the Bush tax cuts should go away.
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