Poll: 74% support voter ID laws

17 Aug 2012 14:43 #81 by PrintSmith

Something the Dog Said wrote: And how many of these have been shown to have illegally voted? None.

And how many have been shown never to have cast a vote? The answer is the same - none. The fact remains that people who are not allowed to vote have been allowed to register to vote which would make it easy for them to vote absent the qualifications needed. In Colorado one is dropped from the registered voter list after not voting in 2 consecutive general elections through a process which takes about 5 years from the last time one did vote in a general election. That would mean that the 4000 people to whom the letters were sent either all registered in the last 5 years or are a combination of those who have registered during that period of time, those who asked to be retained on the list even though they didn't vote in either of the last 2 general elections and those who are on the list due to their casting of a vote in one of the last 2 general elections held in the State. Do I know that any of them have cast a vote in an election? The answer to that question is no, but neither do I know that some or all of them haven't cast a vote yet either at this point.

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17 Aug 2012 14:53 #82 by Something the Dog Said

PrintSmith wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: And how many of these have been shown to have illegally voted? None.

And how many have been shown never to have cast a vote? The answer is the same - none. The fact remains that people who are not allowed to vote have been allowed to register to vote which would make it easy for them to vote absent the qualifications needed. In Colorado one is dropped from the registered voter list after not voting in 2 consecutive general elections through a process which takes about 5 years from the last time one did vote in a general election. That would mean that the 4000 people to whom the letters were sent either all registered in the last 5 years or are a combination of those who have registered during that period of time, those who asked to be retained on the list even though they didn't vote in either of the last 2 general elections and those who are on the list due to their casting of a vote in one of the last 2 general elections held in the State. Do I know that any of them have cast a vote in an election? The answer to that question is no, but neither do I know that some or all of them haven't cast a vote yet either at this point.

So you rush to judgement without the facts. Gessler never implied that any of them had voted illegally, which information he would have access to and the obligation to turn over for prosecution. Instead, he sends them letters inquiring about their current immigration status.

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17 Aug 2012 15:08 #83 by PrintSmith
I rush to no judgements Dog - I leave such foolishness up to you. I have not said that they did vote in the absence of the right to do so, only that it would have been a very easy thing for them to do given the paucity of the efforts to ensure that only eligible voters are casting ballots.

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17 Aug 2012 15:13 #84 by PrintSmith
And Gessler wouldn't have an obligation to turn over anything unless he believed that the law had been intentionally transgressed. At this point, he doesn't know whether any or all of the voters thus far identified are qualified to vote or not. That is why he is asking for them to provide confirmation of their status as citizens who are eligible to vote or to voluntarily withdraw from the registered voter rolls. Once that confirmation is obtained or ineligibility confirmed, then and only then can decisions be made with regards to whether or not they voted in violation of the laws. At this point it is possible that some did. That isn't jumping to a conclusion, it is a statement of what is within the realm of possibility.

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21 Aug 2012 10:22 #85 by Raees

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21 Aug 2012 10:46 #86 by FredHayek
Like PS said, if they don't have proper ID, were they on the voter roll's in the first place? Or are your numbers just a count of adults in the voting age. Adults who don't care enough about voting that they haven't registered.

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29 Aug 2012 21:35 #87 by Raees
Colorado officials say nearly 90 percent of people in the state suspected of being ineligible voters are actually U.S. citizens. The bombshell disclosure came Wednesday at a hearing involving a move by Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler to clear the voting rolls of unqualified people. (read that Democrats)

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18 Sep 2012 12:24 #88 by Something the Dog Said
So the PA appellate court sent the lawsuit contesting the voter ID law back to the district court with instructions to reconsider his decision against the injunction against the law. The judge was instructed "to consider whether the procedures being used for deployment" of ID cards comports with the law as written -- which, in testimony before the Supreme Court, appeared not to be the case.
If those procedures are not being followed, or if the judge was "not still convinced...that there will be no voter disenfranchisement arising out of the Commonwealth’s implementation of a voter identification requirement for purposes of the upcoming election" then he would be "obliged to enter a preliminary injunction," the higher court wrote.

Two Democratic justices dissented, saying the high court should have issued an injunction itself.

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21 Sep 2012 13:06 #89 by LadyJazzer
Here is the new Voter Registration PSA... :lol: (NSFW)

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21 Sep 2012 13:12 #90 by FredHayek
Dem's voting block. The people too stupid to understand how to get a free, goverment issued photo ID.
lol You really want people who can't achieve this simple process voting? Now I understand how Weiner won.

Beavis: "Ha, ha, I voting for this guy, his name is Weiner."

That really says something about the Dem party. And they think Republican voters are brain stems. At least the GOP knows how to get ID's dude.

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