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16 Sep 2012 18:43 #11 by Blazer Bob

Raees wrote: But it's not Obama pulling the strings, it's Israel.
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So you are saying that the CinC of the only super power on the planet is such a spineless wimp that he is nothing but pawn for Israel?

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16 Sep 2012 18:53 #12 by Raees
Israel may strike Iran without approval of other countries. That could draw response from Iran and other Muslim countries and the U.S., Britain and other countries would be bound by treaty to protect Israel. All of this because of a decision made in Tel Aviv.

Do I really have to spell it out for you?

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16 Sep 2012 19:15 #13 by lionshead2010
Th ironic part to me is that if the President would give a LITTLE reassurance to the Israelis they would sit tight on this one. Instead, Mr. Obama has made a sport out of dissing the Israeli leaders and giving them reason to doubt with his flaky foreign policy.

Markets were already projecting something like $112 a barrel oil next week. Just wait until the Iranians start firing missiles at tankers and laying mines in the Strait. You think gas, heating oil and food are expensive now. Holy Toledo!

The Israelis are just tactfully saying what most of the world knows. The Obama-Clinton foreign policy plan is a sham.

The Israelis will likely strike soon but I doubt it will be as we expect it to be. It will be a "horse of a different color". They will then beg for forgiveness after they have left smoking holes in Iran. That's what real leadership looks like...country first.

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16 Sep 2012 19:38 #14 by PrintSmith

Raees wrote: And how does two four year terms equal 10 years?

3 four year terms would equal more than 10 years Raees. Truman served nearly the entire last term that FDR was elected to serve plus one he was elected to serve. 22nd Amendment was submitted by Congress in 1947 and ratified in 1951. Truman, though exempt, felt that the will of the people as expressed should be followed and that he would comply with the 22nd even though he personally wasn't bound by it.

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16 Sep 2012 20:35 #15 by Raees
Before my time, but thanks for clarifying.

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16 Sep 2012 21:06 #16 by LadyJazzer
Gee, I didn't realize Israel had to say "May I?" to the U.S. Government if they feel threatened enough to strike...

It's a good thing that RMoney is standing there in the wings with his vast knowledge of foreign policy, (and apparently dumb enough to believe his own talking-points.)

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16 Sep 2012 21:36 #17 by 2wlady

And how does two four year terms equal 10 years?


Truman became president in April 1945. He ran for office in 1948 and served four years. Right there he had almost 8 years. If he had served another four year term, he would have 11 years. Because he was the sitting president at the time of the 22nd Amendment ratification, he was allowed an exemption and could have been president again if he had run and won.

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17 Sep 2012 06:08 #18 by PrintSmith

Raees wrote: Before my time, but thanks for clarifying.

Before mine too, but it's the history of the Union, something they used to teach in schools before deciding it impeded "progress".

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17 Sep 2012 06:43 #19 by PrintSmith

Raees wrote: Israel may strike Iran without approval of other countries. That could draw response from Iran and other Muslim countries and the U.S., Britain and other countries would be bound by treaty to protect Israel. All of this because of a decision made in Tel Aviv.

Do I really have to spell it out for you?

No, but it might help you understand the situation more thoroughly if you were to stop and think about what a nuclear armed Iran would mean in terms of United States security. There is a reason that previous presidents have worked in tandem with Israel to destroy nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria and this one likely did in Stuxnet.

Our treaty with Israel is one of mutual defense should the other be attacked, not one where we are required to join what we deem to be an offensive action. Then there is our agreement with the UN and the non-proliferation treaty that was one of that entities first actions after being formed at the end of WWII. The whole purpose of having a UN at all is to keep conflict regional and prevent it from becoming global. Not having learned the history of the 22nd because it was before your time, one is placed in a position of presuming you are equally unaware of other history which predates that.

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17 Sep 2012 07:30 #20 by Rick

Raees wrote: Before my time, but thanks for clarifying.

rofllol :lol: Sorry, but that line was just too funny! (and kinda sad)

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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