Hispanic group demands amnesty for 11 million illegals

LadyJazzer wrote:

archer wrote: This is why the GOP will continue to lose demographics in presidential elections.....they do not want to admit the deficiencies in their move towards making their party exclusive rather than inclusive. If this election hadn't shown them they need to make a change in their platform then probably nothing will. You're right LJ, the best thing that can happen for the election in 2016 is for conservatives to double down on ignoring the changing demographics of this country and continue to alienate the rising minority vote.

Regardless of how you feel about Bill Maher, his latest quip nails it:

One of the major takeaways from this election was watching, in real time, the Republican party learn that if they want to stay relevant, they simply must recognize that their base of white males just won't translate to victories anymore. And Bill Maher, on his own "Real Time," found this pretty amusing.

"White people vote for white people like it's going out of style," Maher said during the New Rules segment at the end of his first post-election episode. "And like most things white people do, it's going out of style."

In other words, Maher quipped that Republicans have "the same problem as the Beach Boys: Their fans are dying."

But it is changing.
Republican Ted Cruz wins Texas Senate race
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-worl ... enate-race

I am banking on more Latinos in 2014 running for and winning elections on platforms that reflect their beliefs in the R party.

Akilina good points. A lot of young rising Hispanic and African Americans politicians many with a military background. And more of these veterans consider themselves Republicans.

archer wrote: This is why the GOP will continue to lose demographics in presidential elections.....they do not want to admit the deficiencies in their move towards making their party exclusive rather than inclusive. If this election hadn't shown them they need to make a change in their platform then probably nothing will. You're right LJ, the best thing that can happen for the election in 2016 is for conservatives to double down on ignoring the changing demographics of this country and continue to alienate the rising minority vote.

I cannot disagree, the party needs to evolve. One can only hope there is some soul searching going on and that some of the young bloods, the Latinos and Blacks overthrow the mossbacks. But like in any group those that have the power are never willing to give it up.

Becky wrote: It is days like today reading this thread when you know you have done the right thing.
Grady is absolutely right. The GOP is concerned at the financial drain on our economy and our government, whether that be state or federal, that is burdened by people who are taking from a system without paying into the system.
I personally believe that their needs to be a streamlined path to LEGAL immigration into this country. For several reasons. 1. We know who is here and they are taxed alongside all of us. 2. It improves the quality of life for both sides of the border. I am concerned with just exactly who is coming across that border. If it is a Latino who simply wants a better life and an ability to support his or her family....welcome to America....though I am not sure that a better life is what they will get if things keep moving in the direction they are.
If it is a terrorist who is taking advantage of a border full of holes......not so welcome here.
I resent the implication that merely because of my political persuasion, I am broad brushed as a bigot.
Screw you drop out.
I have come to understand that you hold most anyone with contempt and disdain who is not persuaded to your exact pov.
This country is founded on the premise that people from all over the world are welcome to the land of opportunity. The USA. I hold no prejudice towards any person of any color. I am no better than anyone and I WILL NOT sit and allow anyone to paint me as something I am not.

Glad to see you decided to stick around. I agree, and mostly with the first paragraph of your post, but all in all none the less. I'll be damned if I don't ALWAYS get sidetracked with off topic sh**, so thank you and all the others that stay the course.
As long as we have anyone in power with only THEIR interests or a certain groups interests at heart instead of the country as a whole, things will never move forward. Whether it's a Dem or a Rep, the above stands. Btw, I voted AGAINST BOTH Romney and Obama. In fact, I voted against everyone and everything, go figure. They probably threw out my ballot, lol . Until we get a more evolved human being (unless there's a major jump in evolution, that could be a few thousand more years) my opinion is we're stalled out. Hope I get proven wrong, and real soon. There's some things that need to change, and documentation and regulation of immigration is one of them.

FredHayek wrote: And more of these veterans consider themselves Republicans.

From what I've read, it's actually LESS military identify as Republicans. Less meaning fewer, not Republican is no longer the #1 party.

This is from a couple of years ago:

An exclusive survey of some 1,800 active-duty troops shows the percentage of self-identified Republicans has decreased by one-third since 2004, from 60 percent to 41 percent, while the percentage of self-identified independents has nearly doubled to 32 percent during the same period.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/04/m ... e_041110w/

And from this year:

It is true that the upper echelons of the military tilt right. My own research confirmed that about two-thirds of majors and higher-ranking officers identify as conservative, as previous studies found. But that tilt becomes far less pronounced when you expand the pool of respondents. That is because only 32 percent of the Army’s enlisted soldiers consider themselves conservative, while 23 percent identify as liberal and the remaining 45 percent are self-described moderates. These numbers closely mirror the ideological predilections of the civilian population. . . .

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/milita ... you-think/

In that last one, you'll note moderates outnumber conservatives in the military.

archer wrote: This is why the GOP will continue to lose demographics in presidential elections.....they do not want to admit the deficiencies in their move towards making their party exclusive rather than inclusive. If this election hadn't shown them they need to make a change in their platform then probably nothing will. You're right LJ, the best thing that can happen for the election in 2016 is for conservatives to double down on ignoring the changing demographics of this country and continue to alienate the rising minority vote.

Or maybe Hispanics are just irrational in their decision making. Hispanics have lost jobs and wealth in the Obama recession but yet they think that will change with four more years of the SSDD.

Yeah, that must be it... The Hispanics, The Blacks, The Women, The Seniors, The Vets, The LGBT community--even the Asians... (And in Ohio, the majority of the working-class WHITE GUYS)... They were just "irrational", and the fact that you had a bozo/lozer for a candidate, and a party with no message other than: "Everybody who is part of the 47%---go screw yourselves"...

Yeah, that had to be it...

Oh, and Disney called... They want their robot back....

FredHayek wrote: Or maybe Hispanics are just irrational in their decision making. Hispanics have lost jobs and wealth in the Obama recession but yet they think that will change with four more years of the SSDD.

Or maybe they don't like being referred to by the GOP as "moochers" who "want stuff."

So what's the problem? Give them amnesty. If they want to live an work here... let them.

Reading a lot the last few days about how if the GOP can't find a way to attract the Latino vote, they will have NO PATH to the White House. In other words, you can't win without getting 35-40% Latinos to vote for you. Also, if the Latino percentage in Texas continues to grow, the state could change from red to blue and without Texas, there is no GOP path to the White House.

Perhaps they should stop referring to them a moochers who want stuff. That would be a start.

Parading out token Latinos at the RNC is not the answer.