archer wrote: I really was interested in people's thoughts about what Chavez's death might mean to the United States, did it offer an opportunity for better relations? or worse. Should the US make overtures to whoever wins the election there? Or should we wait and see how things go.....we do get a lot of oil from Venezuela.
Instead we get a lot of snark about Chavez himself, and I gained nothing from the exchange except a dose of reality, the very same posters who try to moderate liberals into towing the line on "their" threads and not posting off topic/snark did just that. Please spare me the ....."Oh, what did that add to the conversation" posts the next time I post something in a thread you think doesn't fit your definition of "on topic".
Hugo: President for Life? Guess so in a cruel twist. Back on topic new elections in a month after an official week of mourning. I hope these are run more fairly and the opposistion has equal access to the media.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
archer wrote: What does this mean for the US? Anything?
Lets ask Sean Penn...
"Today the people of the United States lost a friend it never knew it had. And poor people around the world lost a champion," says Penn in a statement to The Hollywood Reporter. "I lost a friend I was blessed to have. My thoughts are with the family of President Chavez and the people of Venezuela."
FredHayek wrote: Just a joke. Hugo had the best care available from both Venezuela and Cuba and still died before 60. Counter? Fidel Castro has outlived his contemporaries like Nixon Kennedy and Kruschev by a large margin.
Pretty insensitive of you...cancer doesn't distinguish between good and evil people....what you posted is a disservice to every good person who has died from cancer before the age of 60, and those of us who have fought it.
I saw nothing insensitive about his remark. I have battled cancer and was not in the least offended.
Being a stage 4 colon cancer survivor myself, I would also agree. There's a reason so many people were celebrating in the streets and it doesn''t matter how he died, it's just good that he did. We all celebrated Bin Laden's bullet tattoo and would have also celebrated if he had died from cancer, the clap, or from a falling astroid. The world is better off when bad people die....PERIOD.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
archer wrote: I really was interested in people's thoughts about what Chavez's death might mean to the United States, did it offer an opportunity for better relations? or worse. Should the US make overtures to whoever wins the election there? Or should we wait and see how things go.....we do get a lot of oil from Venezuela.
Instead we get a lot of snark about Chavez himself, and I gained nothing from the exchange except a dose of reality, the very same posters who try to moderate liberals into towing the line on "their" threads and not posting off topic/snark did just that. Please spare me the ....."Oh, what did that add to the conversation" posts the next time I post something in a thread you think doesn't fit your definition of "on topic".
Thank you for setting us straight.
talk about moderation.... lol . Aren't you attempting the same thing archer?
The conversation didn't go as you planned so......
Going to my corner now.
FredHayek wrote: Just a joke. Hugo had the best care available from both Venezuela and Cuba and still died before 60. Counter? Fidel Castro has outlived his contemporaries like Nixon Kennedy and Kruschev by a large margin.
Pretty insensitive of you...cancer doesn't distinguish between good and evil people....what you posted is a disservice to every good person who has died from cancer before the age of 60, and those of us who have fought it.
I saw nothing insensitive about his remark. I have battled cancer and was not in the least offended.
Being a stage 4 colon cancer survivor myself, I would also agree. There's a reason so many people were celebrating in the streets and it doesn''t matter how he died, it's just good that he did. We all celebrated Bin Laden's bullet tattoo and would have also celebrated if he had died from cancer, the clap, or from a falling astroid. The world is better off when bad people die....PERIOD.
Congrats on surviving cancer. My sister-in-law just got out of surgery for colon cancer, football sized tumour. Stage 4. Hopefully she pulls through, supposed to start chemo soon. And she is only 53. Eerie? He father died of cancer at the same age, but his was in the throat and lymph nodes.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
archer wrote: I really was interested in people's thoughts about what Chavez's death might mean to the United States, did it offer an opportunity for better relations? or worse. Should the US make overtures to whoever wins the election there? Or should we wait and see how things go.....we do get a lot of oil from Venezuela.
Instead we get a lot of snark about Chavez himself, and I gained nothing from the exchange except a dose of reality, the very same posters who try to moderate liberals into towing the line on "their" threads and not posting off topic/snark did just that. Please spare me the ....."Oh, what did that add to the conversation" posts the next time I post something in a thread you think doesn't fit your definition of "on topic".
Thank you for setting us straight.
talk about moderation.... lol . Aren't you attempting the same thing archer?
The conversation didn't go as you planned so......
Going to my corner now.
You just don't get it do you....that is EXACTLY my point. The very same posters who have whined and complained that liberals can't carry on a reasonable discussion and won't stay on topic are doing the very same thing. Can't you see the hypocrisy in that? No, probably you can't.
Whatever....Yesterday was a tough day, so maybe that colored my view of some posts.....
FredHayek wrote: Now the Venezuelans think the US gave him cancer. While I wouldn't put it past the CIA to do it, I don't think they did this time.
They seem to be working hard at making the US responsible for his death, it helps to unify the country if they can create a common enemy. But really.....are the Venezuelan people that gullible?
