Boston Bombers ID'ed - Not White Tea Party members

20 Apr 2013 00:39 #161 by Jekyll
Here's an example of "ironic" titles. Go to [url=http://www.drudgereport.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.drudgereport.com[/url] and you'll see the main headline "BOSTON JIHAD." Not only has this boy NOT been connected in any way to a Jihadist movement, the media spews this sh** like crazy. Not surprised at all. In fact, I'm pretty sick of people making their assumptions, based soley on the media and police scanners. Here's the article, and it says NOTHING about Jihad at all. I'm so flippin' floored. NOT.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130420/DA5OUIK02.html

I'm starting to wonder if I should just disown Libtards and Conservatwits all together, family AND friends.
Edit: Because the easy and LAZY thing to do is lump this boy in with the radicals and say the media and cops are totally correct.

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20 Apr 2013 00:49 #162 by Jekyll
Not to mention his older brother. Everything is heresay. Same people in it to disarm us are totally telling the truth....riiiiiiiight.

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20 Apr 2013 01:24 #163 by Blazer Bob
"CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin and Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani discuss why Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev will not be read his Miranda rights before questioning."

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/19/b ... -warnings/


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20 Apr 2013 06:18 #164 by homeagain

homeagain wrote: YES......have they been "used" by another individual(s)or faction and were just manipulated to take the fall? (in OVER their heads)


:coffee-News: :Whistle NOW I will speculate......

Guess Alan Derchowitz will be reviewing this case....NO Miranda Rights???? :smackshead:

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20 Apr 2013 06:52 #165 by Reverend Revelant

homeagain wrote:

homeagain wrote: YES......have they been "used" by another individual(s)or faction and were just manipulated to take the fall? (in OVER their heads)


:coffee-News: :Whistle NOW I will speculate......

Guess Alan Derchowitz will be reviewing this case....NO Miranda Rights???? :smackshead:


The Federal government has the right to hold someone without giving him his Miranda rights. It's called the "Public Safety" exception and the Federal agencies can question him from the time a doctor says he is capable of answering questions... for the next 48 hours after that. Then... and only then do they have to read him his Miranda Rights.

The strength of the Miranda decision is its clarity in its nearly unwavering protection of a suspect's Fifth Amendment protection against selfincrimination. The commitment to this rule is so strong that the Supreme Court has recognized only one exception to the Miranda rule—the "public safety" exception—which permits law enforcement to engage in a limited and focused unwarned interrogation and allows the government to introduce the statement as direct evidence.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publi ... gal_digest


FYI

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20 Apr 2013 06:58 #166 by Reverend Revelant

Jekyll wrote: Here's an example of "ironic" titles. Go to [url=http://www.drudgereport.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.drudgereport.com[/url] and you'll see the main headline "BOSTON JIHAD." Not only has this boy NOT been connected in any way to a Jihadist movement, the media spews this sh** like crazy. Not surprised at all. In fact, I'm pretty sick of people making their assumptions, based soley on the media and police scanners. Here's the article, and it says NOTHING about Jihad at all. I'm so flippin' floored. NOT.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130420/DA5OUIK02.html

I'm starting to wonder if I should just disown Libtards and Conservatwits all together, family AND friends.
Edit: Because the easy and LAZY thing to do is lump this boy in with the radicals and say the media and cops are totally correct.


Oh please... do I have to do all the research for you...

On what appear to be their social media pages, the two brothers accused of bombing the Boston Marathon presented two faces -- one of Islamic fundamentalism, another of youthful whimsy.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev

A review of the YouTube page by NBC News found it included several Islamic extremist videos organized into two playlists -- "Islam," set up six months ago, and "terrorists," set up five months ago. But it also featured an eclectic mix of other videos, including music by Russian and Ukrainian rappers and a channel devoted to family ski vacations.

On the first playlist were videos featuring the Australian fundamentalist preacher Feiz Mohammed, who has been criticized for his misogynist views and calls to train children as jihadi warriors; a recitation from the Quran by a famous reciter, downloaded from a fundamentalist Islamic Center in Malmo, Sweden; and the last, posted two months ago, dedicated to the Black Banners of Khorasan, a prophecy of Islamic victory that is embraced by al Qaeda and other radical elements.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

But the VKontakte, or VK, page is not without political or religious elements.. He also posted a long, stirring Islamic propaganda piece focusing on Bashar al-Assad’s brutality in Syria. Images of dead children, the siege of the city of Homs and government soldiers humiliating civilian detainees (both dead and alive) feature heavily in the piece, titled “Those With A Heart.” The video, which is accompanied by singing and chanting in Arabic, with Russian subtitles, ends with this written message: “Syria is calling – we will answer.” A third video called “Meeting between Fahda Ali Kandari and a blind boy” is a sentimental conversation between a possibly fictional Gulf Arab sheikh and a blind child.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/20 ... himsy?lite


There... read the whole article... I got this from the lefty MSNBC site just so you can't rant and rave about being "pretty sick of people making their assumptions" There are no assumptions in this article... simply facts.

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20 Apr 2013 07:09 #167 by Reverend Revelant

Jekyll wrote: Here's an example of "ironic" titles. Go to [url=http://www.drudgereport.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.drudgereport.com[/url] and you'll see the main headline "BOSTON JIHAD." Not only has this boy NOT been connected in any way to a Jihadist movement...

[snip]


The Jihadist movement is motivated by an ideology... not necessarily a membership card in a particular cadre of followers of this ideology. A person can be self-radicalized using printed material, internet Jihadi sites, Islamic fundamentalist videos, email... the list goes on. The evidence that is now coming out indicates that the older brother was possibly self-radicalized over the last few years and convinced his younger brother to support this ideology and join him in this personal Jihad.

(Also... see my comment and article link in my post above this one for more information)

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20 Apr 2013 07:31 #168 by homeagain

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

homeagain wrote:

homeagain wrote: YES......have they been "used" by another individual(s)or faction and were just manipulated to take the fall? (in OVER their heads)


:coffee-News: :Whistle NOW I will speculate......

Guess Alan Derchowitz will be reviewing this case....NO Miranda Rights???? :smackshead:


The Federal government has the right to hold someone without giving him his Miranda rights. It's called the "Public Safety" exception and the Federal agencies can question him from the time a doctor says he is capable of answering questions... for the next 48 hours after that. Then... and only then do they have to read him his Miranda Rights.

The strength of the Miranda decision is its clarity in its nearly unwavering protection of a suspect's Fifth Amendment protection against selfincrimination. The commitment to this rule is so strong that the Supreme Court has recognized only one exception to the Miranda rule—the "public safety" exception—which permits law enforcement to engage in a limited and focused unwarned interrogation and allows the government to introduce the statement as direct evidence.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publi ... gal_digest


FYI


YEP, BUT when McCain and Graham want him declared an "enemy combatant" AND the authorities DECLARED (last nite) that the
threat was "over" and public safety was NOT an issue (paraphrasing here, go about your business BUT be aware and report anything
that you deem suspicious).......PUBLIC SAFETY was NOT an issue last nite, there is a DISCONNECT.

This "boy" is 19 years old, he made a heinous decision to follow his brother (JMO) and the judicial system APPEARS to be blocking
his "rights" as an AMERICAN CITIZEN. (correct me if I am wrong, he got his citizenship but his brother did NOT?)....have to check that right now.

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20 Apr 2013 07:35 #169 by homeagain
HE IS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.....2012.

Derchouwitz was on air this am, VERIFYING what I suspected......THIS WILL BE A PROBLEM......

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20 Apr 2013 07:40 #170 by Reverend Revelant

homeagain wrote: HE IS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.....2012.

Derchouwitz was on air this am, VERIFYING what I suspected......THIS WILL BE A PROBLEM......


He is still a threat to public safety until they can determine if he had anyone else involved in this event and if there is any other explosive devices existing anywhere in the Boston area. Dershowitz may have his own legal opinion, but he can be wrong.

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