homeagain wrote: Per WSJ....A Select Committee has been requested...bi-partisan in nature AND will be the ONLY means available for the US political
system to extricate itself from the labyrinth called Beneqhazi....(end of quote).....
Mr Hicks' CREDIBLE testimony has changed the end game...JMO
The explanation for Beneghazi DESERVES the BEST EFFORT elected officials can give it, and the right vehicle is a SELECT COMMITTEE
with SUBPOENA POWERS AND DEPOSITION AUTHORITY. Per WSJ
You (collectively) are all just chasing your tails in such a tight circle that I'm surprised you can still stand up...JMO (translated=your
partisanship is friggin getting stale and stupid....JMO
First you mention the fact that Mr Hicks' testimony is credible, then you say we're all chasing our tails. Should this whole matter have just been swept under the rug eight months ago, or is there legitimate reason to be concerned that this administration is guilty of changing, or pressuring the CIA to change the talking points? You must agree that the stories eight months ago are not exactly lining up with the new facts and emails that have recently been discovered... right? These people WORK FOR US and not the other way around... we deserve to know all the answers regardless who falls because of them.
WHAT I am saying is this.....THERE IS A PROBLEM......NOW, allow the select committee to delve into this fubar (subpoena the records) and get to the TRUTH.....laying blame is premature at this juncture.
The factors are many and sorting out the information will take TIME....there is much to explain....STARTING WITH THE WSJ
ARTICLE ABOUT THE LACK OF CLARIFICATION OF WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURITY...THE CIA OR THE STATE DEPT.....each
assumed the other was responsible. The issue of Blackwater/contracted security org who pissed off the Libyan government has
compounded this factor....the level of security designation was NOT decided and it is my understanding it was low bidded....you
get what you pay for....the list of factors goes on and on......I'm as pissed as everyone else on this site......but PARTISAN politics
is just a cope out. There needs to be accountability and that will take time to achieve.
Well let me ask you this... if the GOP hadn't kept pressing this issue, do you believe that these new revelations would have ever seen the light of day?
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
From my POV the WSJ article was OVERLOOKED by both the R's and the D's and it was published in Nov, 2012......it EXPLAINS alot.....
that Benegazhi fell thru the cracks because NO clarification of sec. was made by the State Dept OR the CIA.....and NOW they are
doing extensive CYA......time will tell who is at fault for this fubar.... Petraeus mistress's statement about CIA covert dealing at the
Benegazhi location was dropped like a lead ballon...NO follow up/clarification of fact ALSO plays a part in this....LOTS OF THINGS WERE
OVERLOOKED by both the D's and the R's....
Something the Dog Said wrote: Let's see, who voted to cut the funding for security for the diplomatic corp? I believe it was the Republicans.
The House lowered what the the White House had requested for worldwide embassy security (hundreds of facilities). That budget also covers worldwide facilities and maintainance. The Senate added more money on a bipartisan vote ($270 million less than the $2.37 billion requested) and it was signed by the president (and how often does the White House get exactly what they ask for?). BTW, from 1998 to 2008 that budget had already increased by a factor of 9X.
And you make the claim it affected Benghazi security (not that Benghazi was an embassy). Why would security in a hotspot like Benghazi be cut when they could instead cut security in Canada, or just do less building instead? What evidence do you have that any cut affected security in Benghazi? Don't you think there would of been some testimony about that? I can't find any. But I can find this...
In testimony Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”
Lamb responded, “No, sir.”
Recall that Lamb is the person who denied requests from the top diplomatic security officer in Libya to retain a 16-man team of military personnel who had been protecting diplomats.
And in the last couple of days we also got this testimony...
A team of Special Operations troops that had been assigned to the embassy in Libya in 2011 to provide security was significantly downsized and its mission changed to training shortly before the attack, Hicks testified. The team of 14 to 16 elite troops was whittled down to four after two of them were carjacked, a decision Hicks said was made by the U.S. military’s Africa Command.
How does a 12% reduction in the funding requested by the White House reduce security at a hotspot embassy by about 75%? Not that anyone claimed it did.
“The Agency (CIA) has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al-Qa’ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya. These noted that, since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British Ambassador’s convoy. We cannot rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the U.S. facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks.”
to this... it was a video...
Hillary "We'll 'make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted"
Susan Rice "“Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” Rice told me this morning on “This Week.” “In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated,” Rice said, referring to protests in Egypt Tuesday over a film that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a fraud. Protesters in Cairo breached the walls of the U.S. Embassy, tearing apart an American flag.
OBAMA: Here's what happened. ... You had a video that was released by somebody who lives here, sort of a shadowy character who -- who made an extremely offensive video directed at -- at Mohammed and Islam -- LETTERMAN: Making fun of the Prophet Mohammed. OBAMA: Making fun of the Prophet Mohammed. And so, this caused great offense in much of the Muslim world. But what also happened, extremists and terrorists used this as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies, including the one, the consulate in Libya.
If only the Obama administration was as good at finding the Benghazi killers as the Republicans are at finding the incompetence in the Obama administration. Jay Carney was just saying this week Benghazi was a long time ago but still no progress...but Obama's golf game is improving.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
