Healthcare.gov is fixed!!!

JMO....."what we have here,is a failure to communicate."....there are TWO distinct issues, ONE.
partisian politics continuing to corrupt the issue and TWO. The CRISIS of healthcare delivery
in this country......apparently the female gender identifies with the delineation of the two and
the MALE GENDER DOES NOT......JMO......something had to be done, it was DONE.....and just
like divestiture of the communication industry it was a fubar from the get go. NOW, what remains
is the real work....GETTING IT RIGHT.....am I ecstatic with O's egregious effort....HELL NO.but
it's done, you work thru the problems and come out the other side.....as with ANYTHING else,the
oversight of the project was woefully lacking(the Gulf oil spill,Hurricane Katrinia,the nuke accident
at FUKESHIMA.....humans apparently can NOT do oversight very well....JMO.....this issue is
LONG overdue for an overhaul and it's here......deal with it. JMO

homeagain wrote: JMO....."what we have here,is a failure to communicate."....there are TWO distinct issues, ONE.
partisian politics continuing to corrupt the issue and TWO. The CRISIS of healthcare delivery
in this country......apparently the female gender identifies with the delineation of the two and
the MALE GENDER DOES NOT......JMO......something had to be done, it was DONE.....and just
like divestiture of the communication industry it was a fubar from the get go. NOW, what remains
is the real work....GETTING IT RIGHT.....am I ecstatic with O's egregious effort....HELL NO.but
it's done, you work thru the problems and come out the other side.....as with ANYTHING else,the
oversight of the project was woefully lacking(the Gulf oil spill,Hurricane Katrinia,the nuke accident
at FUKESHIMA.....humans apparently can NOT do oversight very well....JMO.....this issue is
LONG overdue for an overhaul and it's here......deal with it. JMO

Humans can, bureaucracies cant.

homeagain wrote: JMO....."what we have here,is a failure to communicate."....there are TWO distinct issues, ONE.
partisian politics continuing to corrupt the issue and TWO. The CRISIS of healthcare delivery
in this country......apparently the female gender identifies with the delineation of the two and
the MALE GENDER DOES NOT......JMO......something had to be done, it was DONE.....and just
like divestiture of the communication industry it was a fubar from the get go. NOW, what remains
is the real work....GETTING IT RIGHT.....am I ecstatic with O's egregious effort....HELL NO.but
it's done, you work thru the problems and come out the other side.....as with ANYTHING else,the
oversight of the project was woefully lacking(the Gulf oil spill,Hurricane Katrinia,the nuke accident
at FUKESHIMA.....humans apparently can NOT do oversight very well....JMO.....this issue is
LONG overdue for an overhaul and it's here......deal with it. JMO

LOL - How many times do you really need to add JMO? For future reference - everything I post is my opinion.
But you are right. We need to now pull together and fix this mess. Otherwise, we are all going to be heading to border towns to get healthcare in Mexico. My first suggestions for fixing this:

1. Listen to insurance companies when they say that not everyone needs exactly the same coverage. Men do not need pregnancy coverage. This one thing will DRASTICALLY reduce costs.
2. Scrap the failed rollout, set up an agreed upon framework, and restart this in one year.
3. Leave in place the changes that needed to be made - pre-existing conditions etc. Take the behemoth law and actually take a fresh look at it and keep what's good, scrap what's not.
4. ...I really wish I knew enough about the letter of this law. I think that we all need to educate ourselves and read this thing and understand it.

Anyone else?

towermonkey wrote: [ I think that we all need to educate ourselves and read this thing and understand it.

Anyone else?

It is over 2000 pages of law. Tens of thousands of pages of regulations to implement it.

Speaking for myself, I would be a liar or an egomaniac to say I could understand it even if I spent the rest of my life trying.

This was not meant to be understood, it was meant to allow countless thousands of faceless bureaucrats control our life's.

towermonkey wrote:

homeagain wrote: JMO....."what we have here,is a failure to communicate."....there are TWO distinct issues, ONE.
partisian politics continuing to corrupt the issue and TWO. The CRISIS of healthcare delivery
in this country......apparently the female gender identifies with the delineation of the two and
the MALE GENDER DOES NOT......JMO......something had to be done, it was DONE.....and just
like divestiture of the communication industry it was a fubar from the get go. NOW, what remains
is the real work....GETTING IT RIGHT.....am I ecstatic with O's egregious effort....HELL NO.but
it's done, you work thru the problems and come out the other side.....as with ANYTHING else,the
oversight of the project was woefully lacking(the Gulf oil spill,Hurricane Katrinia,the nuke accident
at FUKESHIMA.....humans apparently can NOT do oversight very well....JMO.....this issue is
LONG overdue for an overhaul and it's here......deal with it. JMO

LOL - How many times do you really need to add JMO? For future reference - everything I post is my opinion.
But you are right. We need to now pull together and fix this mess. Otherwise, we are all going to be heading to border towns to get healthcare in Mexico. My first suggestions for fixing this:

1. Listen to insurance companies when they say that not everyone needs exactly the same coverage. Men do not need pregnancy coverage. This one thing will DRASTICALLY reduce costs.
2. Scrap the failed rollout, set up an agreed upon framework, and restart this in one year.
3. Leave in place the changes that needed to be made - pre-existing conditions etc. Take the behemoth law and actually take a fresh look at it and keep what's good, scrap what's not.
4. ...I really wish I knew enough about the letter of this law. I think that we all need to educate ourselves and read this thing and understand it.

Anyone else?

#1 Kill the individual mandate.

Point fingers.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... -unite.php

WRECKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE
There is a disturbing undercurrent in Obama’s campaign-style speech on behalf of Obamacare at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building today. Obama never credits opponents of the law with the substance of their criticism. He does not attribute decent motives or good faith opposition to them. Rather, he treats them as “wreckers” (as they were deemed in the Soviet Union) guilty of destructive thought crime:"...

towermonkey wrote:

homeagain wrote: JMO....."what we have here,is a failure to communicate."....there are TWO distinct issues, ONE.
partisian politics continuing to corrupt the issue and TWO. The CRISIS of healthcare delivery
in this country......apparently the female gender identifies with the delineation of the two and
the MALE GENDER DOES NOT......JMO......something had to be done, it was DONE.....and just
like divestiture of the communication industry it was a fubar from the get go. NOW, what remains
is the real work....GETTING IT RIGHT.....am I ecstatic with O's egregious effort....HELL NO.but
it's done, you work thru the problems and come out the other side.....as with ANYTHING else,the
oversight of the project was woefully lacking(the Gulf oil spill,Hurricane Katrinia,the nuke accident
at FUKESHIMA.....humans apparently can NOT do oversight very well....JMO.....this issue is
LONG overdue for an overhaul and it's here......deal with it. JMO

LOL - How many times do you really need to add JMO? For future reference - everything I post is my opinion.
But you are right. We need to now pull together and fix this mess. Otherwise, we are all going to be heading to border towns to get healthcare in Mexico. My first suggestions for fixing this:

1. Listen to insurance companies when they say that not everyone needs exactly the same coverage. Men do not need pregnancy coverage. This one thing will DRASTICALLY reduce costs.
2. Scrap the failed rollout, set up an agreed upon framework, and restart this in one year.
3. Leave in place the changes that needed to be made - pre-existing conditions etc. Take the behemoth law and actually take a fresh look at it and keep what's good, scrap what's not.
4. ...I really wish I knew enough about the letter of this law. I think that we all need to educate ourselves and read this thing and understand it.

Anyone else?

FOCUS ON MEDICAL COSTS FIRST!

There is no reason why I should be charged $7.00 for a disposable razor while in the hospital.
Deal with the insanely high cost of malpractice insurance.
Focus on bringing down drug costs.

Once we control the costs of health care THEN we can worry about insurance, which will be much cheaper if their risk is smaller. And if you don't think insurance companies will bring down premiums as costs come down, watch what happens when competition across state lines is possible.

If you're talking tort reform, I disagree completely. The penalties for screwing up need to be high enough to deter docs from getting sloppy. I know most docs don't need the deterrent, but there are some that do. As far as controlling costs, get rid of the emergency room care for the common cold, keep the individual mandate. I don't like it, but there really is no other way that we can shut off ER care for people who don't need it...or maybe there is and I don't see it. Docs may like to bitch about malpractice insurance costs, but that is not the driving factor in these exorbitant costs. The main factor is that ER's only get paid by some percentage of people who come in and have to spread the costs out to cover that. The mandate, if done correctly, will keep people from using ER's as a clinic. I suppose they could mandate that nobody can be refused service at certain clinics as well as ER's. That might actually have some impact on costs by moving certain levels of care over to lower cost facilities.

towermonkey wrote: If you're talking tort reform, I disagree completely. The penalties for screwing up need to be high enough to deter docs from getting sloppy. I know most docs don't need the deterrent, but there are some that do. As far as controlling costs, get rid of the emergency room care for the common cold, keep the individual mandate. I don't like it, but there really is no other way that we can shut off ER care for people who don't need it...or maybe there is and I don't see it. Docs may like to bitch about malpractice insurance costs, but that is not the driving factor in these exorbitant costs. The main factor is that ER's only get paid by some percentage of people who come in and have to spread the costs out to cover that. The mandate, if done correctly, will keep people from using ER's as a clinic. I suppose they could mandate that nobody can be refused service at certain clinics as well as ER's. That might actually have some impact on costs by moving certain levels of care over to lower cost facilities.

I was given a chemo drug that caused bad neuropathy in my feet and fingers, then I was given another drug that caused a heart attack and 20 minutes of cardiac arrest with a week in ICU. I'm sure I could have sued and made some lawyer big bucks, but I also realize that medicine isn't an exact science plus it did get rid of my cancer. This kind of stuff happens daily, hourly in fact, but what is the answer? More lawsuits? It's amazing that any of us can afford insurance with lawyers multiplying like maggots and doctors fading away.

And you knew going in, or should have known, that the chemo drugs were poison, would cause you all kinds of side effects, none of them pleasant, and there were no guarantees, only hope, that they would kill the cancer before they killed you. That's the risk we take Rick. It was all spelled out for me before I started chemo, and I hope it was for you. I see no relationship to malpractice there. Try a different analogy.