JeffCo school board decision draws questions re:transparency

14 Oct 2015 11:44 #201 by FredHayek
The left-leaning Denver Post Editorial page supports a "NO" vote on the recall. Maybe give the new school board members a full term to see what they do before throwing them out?

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14 Oct 2015 14:11 - 14 Oct 2015 14:34 #202 by Something the Dog Said

FredHayek wrote: The left-leaning Denver Post Editorial page supports a "NO" vote on the recall. Maybe give the new school board members a full term to see what they do before throwing them out?


Since when has Vince Carroll been considered "left-leaning"? This is the same editorial board that endorsed Corey Gardner for Senate. Their editorial was also deceptive, claiming that the statement that the Jeffco superintendent salary of $280,000 was a falsehood when it is in fact true that his salary includes his base of $220,000, and additional $40,000 in easily achievable "bonus" payments and $20,000 additional reimbursement for his portion of his "retirement" benefits. No bias there. Also, they claimed that the statement about Jeffco teacher turnover rate was also misleading, since the Jeffco turnover rate in 2014 was less than some other school districts. In fact, in 2013, when the current school board took over, the rate was about 10%, while in 2014 it was 50% higher, at 15%. No bias there either.

As I recall, you had no problem with the recall of state senators Morse and Giron in 2013. So is it only conservative politicians who should not be subject to recall?

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14 Oct 2015 14:58 #203 by MyMountainTown
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14 Oct 2015 15:04 #204 by FredHayek

Something the Dog Said wrote:

FredHayek wrote: The left-leaning Denver Post Editorial page supports a "NO" vote on the recall. Maybe give the new school board members a full term to see what they do before throwing them out?


Since when has Vince Carroll been considered "left-leaning"? This is the same editorial board that endorsed Corey Gardner for Senate. Their editorial was also deceptive, claiming that the statement that the Jeffco superintendent salary of $280,000 was a falsehood when it is in fact true that his salary includes his base of $220,000, and additional $40,000 in easily achievable "bonus" payments and $20,000 additional reimbursement for his portion of his "retirement" benefits. No bias there. Also, they claimed that the statement about Jeffco teacher turnover rate was also misleading, since the Jeffco turnover rate in 2014 was less than some other school districts. In fact, in 2013, when the current school board took over, the rate was about 10%, while in 2014 it was 50% higher, at 15%. No bias there either.

As I recall, you had no problem with the recall of state senators Morse and Giron in 2013. So is it only conservative politicians who should not be subject to recall?


The Denver Post didn't support the recall of Morse or Giron either. The state made recalls to get rid of incompetent or criminal politicians, not those you had only political differences with.

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18 Oct 2015 08:33 #205 by ZHawke
Sharing this as taken directly from a post on Facebook made by Frank DeAngelis, former administrator at Columbine High School, and a person for whom I have the highest regard:

This column is the complete text that I submitted to the Denver Post as a rebuttal to an editorial in opposition to the Jefferson County School Board Recall. Because of space limitations, the Post could not publish the entire text.

I am saddened to write this submission to the Denver Post, but feel I have no choice following the publication of the misguided editorial about the recall election. I believe that the Post’s editors have completely ignored critical issues of the Recall.

The Post and those supporting the three school board majority members have continually attacked the teachers’ union as a strong motivation behind the recall effort. They have implied or stated outright that Jefferson County teachers put themselves above the needs of the children. I can state absolutely that I have never met any teacher (union member or not) who went into education for selfish reasons. These are the same teachers who agreed to forego a raise for five years (and even took a reduction in pay) when the economy was suffering. The current board majority states that they approved a 7% raise for teachers. In reality, this was not a raise. Instead, it represents an increase in the base pay only for beginning teachers in order to offer more competitive starting salaries with other metro school districts. Actually, experienced teachers received an average raise of only 1%.

Contrary to criticism, teachers want to be held accountable. Under the current system, however, those completing evaluations are not adequately trained to be consistent. As a result, a teacher’s evaluation, which determines his or her salary, depends as much on the evaluator as the teacher’s performance.
The Post and others argue that teachers are leaving because they want to take advantage of a “better hiring market.” Two of the highest achieving school districts in our state, Cherry Creek and Boulder, are not losing teachers to other districts. In fact, experienced teachers from Douglas County and Jefferson County are going to Boulder and Cherry Creek because of the support they receive as educators. The loss of quality employees would never be accepted by a successful private sector company.

Our board should be asking, Why are experienced employees leaving and how can we reverse this trend so we are not losing our most valuable assets? Since Ken Witt, John Newkirk, and Julie Williams (WNW) took office, nearly 1,000 experienced teachers and administrators have left Jeffco, many of them for other school districts. This exodus reflects the low morale, lack of trust, and hostile environment created not just by the decisions made by WNW, but the way those decisions were made. I applauded them for increasing the starting salaries to compete with other districts, but it is disheartening and expensive that once Jeffco hires quality candidates they are not keeping them. I feel that the present board majority does not value experience.

When WNW campaigned for their current positions, their platform promised increased transparency. However, it has been their on-going practice to present new agenda items just prior to board meetings and demand that the other board members make decisions without a reasonable amount of time for consideration or discussion. Anyone attending these board meetings realizes that WNW have made decisions without consulting the other board members, as was the case when they hired an attorney to represent only the three of them. This is an inappropriate process and, most likely, a violation of the Sunshine Law that governs elected officials. Over the years, I have witnessed board members who may not agree, but they disagreed respectfully. It saddens me that the disrespect displayed at board meetings becomes weekly YouTube videos.

Another important issue the Post failed to address is the use of outside money to influence this election. Why is an organization located in Arlington, Virginia, “Americans for Prosperity,” pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into television ads, Facebook ads, and mailings trying to defeat the Recall? A vital trait of any effective school board should be local control, not outside influence that doesn’t have a stake in the community.

During my 35 years as a teacher, coach, dean, and administrator in Jefferson County Public Schools, I have never witnessed a grassroots movement as powerful as that employed by community members seeking to recall WNW. Specifically, 33,000 Republicans, Democrats and Independents signed petitions to recall the board majority, not just because of objections to their policy but because of their failure to be fiscally responsible, transparent, and respectful. Our students deserve better!!

For the reasons above I strongly endorse the Recall. The local candidates seeking to replace WNW are Ron Mitchell, Brad Rupert, and Susan Harmon. These candidates have deep ties to Jefferson County Public Schools and share goals of retaining quality staff, returning the district to local control, and providing a quality education for all children. Ali Lasell and Amanda Stevens have joined Mitchell, Rupert, and Harmon because they share a vision for ensuring quality education for all Jeffco children. I have had discussions with all five candidates, and I am convinced that they have Jefferson County Public Schools as their priority and will bring local control back to our schools.
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18 Oct 2015 09:40 #206 by ZHawke
Here's the link to the Denver Post Guest Commentary that Frank DeAngelis wrote:

Guest Commentary: Misguided opposition to Jeffco school board recall

As mentioned in the previous post written by Frank, the Denver Post, due to size limitations, didn't include his full text. The quote I provided did.

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21 Oct 2015 14:11 #207 by Mountain-News-Events
JeffCo School Board Recall: Where The Candidates Stand
By Jenny Brundin Oct 20, 2015

By now, you may have heard that there's a hotly contested recall election over Jefferson County's School Board.

But beyond the recall, where do the candidates stand on education issues affecting the district? We chose five questions and compiled the positions of each candidate based on answers that they provided in area debates or answers that they gave CPR News.

  • Would you continue with pay for performance salaries for teachers?
  • Do you support corporate, for-profit charter schools?
  • Do you support the recall?
  • How will you address the classroom shortage/overcrowding problem?
  • Is the district's new policy on student-based budgeting working? Should all children have access to free, full-day kindergarten?

- See more at: www.cpr.org/news/story/jeffco-school-boa...sthash.tX3JKoAZ.dpuf

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22 Oct 2015 21:53 #208 by Ashley
Thank you for the video SC. Very informative. All seem very dedicated and wanting to make a contribution. Good luck to all of them.

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03 Nov 2015 19:57 #209 by Something the Dog Said
Looks like there will be a new school board in Jeffco. The vote was 2 to 1 to recall Newkirk, Williams and With.

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04 Nov 2015 08:24 #210 by ScienceChic
I'm happy with the results, and also how I am seeing so many parents and community members calling to stay involved after the election, make sure to be inclusive and respectful of all viewpoints, work with charter schools, and continue to make our school district even better. This board unintentionally united and motivated this county to become active and involved - I love it.

So, it's probably a given that the lawyer will be gone shortly. What do you think about Superintendent McMinimee?

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