Make a choice!

13 Aug 2010 23:33 #31 by The Viking
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It is funny how so many who have Obama stickers feel that they are 'Entitled' to the whole road. It is that whole 'entitlement' mentality that liberals are taught to have. Most all cars with conservative bumper stickers may drive fast at times but at least if they see someone coming up behind them, they will move over and let you pass and not try and 'control' the way you have to drive. That is another liberal thing. Trying to 'control' others even when you drive. If you don't like something, then rather than just letting others do as they please, they try and 'control' them. Like gun control, and trying to 'control' the airwaves since they can't get anyone to listen to their shows. And 'controlling' the banks, and wall street, and the auto industry, and the health care industry. It spills over into their driving. It is all about 'controlling' the way others drive and a feeling of 'entitlement' to the whole road to drive as they please. They can never be happy unless they are trying to control something or someone. I am telling you it is true. Watch the next time you have people slamming on their brakes in the fast lane because they don't feel like moving over even when they can and most courteous drivers would, 80% of the time they will have some sort of Liberal bumper sticker on their car.

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14 Aug 2010 00:24 #32 by ScienceChic
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Too true about the bumper stickers; any Democrat bumper sticker indicates a bad driver - used to make me cringe that they gave us liberals a bad name on the road. Quite surprisingly, the opposite is true about license plates; my own personal survey has found that the most inconsiderate license plates are US Army, Marine Corps, and firefighters (and this one I really don't get cuz I used to date a firefighter and he was an even crazier speeder than me - he said cops never give them tix so why do they go so slow? Sick of seeing people hurt and trying to save us from ourselves? I get that, but it's my choice and despite my speeding I've caused only one accident and that was when I was 17 and I wasn't even going fast then. Speeding does not mean careless. Sorry, tangent rant, B.O.T.). And before I start getting the hate mail, do a count yourself for a month on the road. Same with vehicle types - Subarus and Land Rovers are awful for hangin out in the left lane, but so are Expeditions and Explorers. I just chalk it up to courtesy and considerateness are dying traits, not that liberals feel entitled to everything or conservatives have a stick up their ar$# and are unable to push the gas pedal without severe discomfort. lol Just joking folks!

Me, I so don't want to control how anyone drives, I just want them to get the h#** outta my way! :biggrin: ('course, I'm no longer a Democrat anymore, but still liberal!)

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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14 Aug 2010 07:06 #33 by The Boss
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I think polls are cool, but at this point, have we not seen that 285 polls are anyting but representative. In fact, could we not just take that opposite of whatever we vote on and assume that is the real world?

Just looking at recent facts.

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14 Aug 2010 07:08 #34 by The Boss
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Oh and I would take Obama, but it is politics so always lesser of the evils. I am pretty convervative, but like park co, just because bush talked the talk, he did not walk the walk.

And torture does not a conservative make. It takes a little more.

I am kinda curious though, Bush cleared the forest, dug up the rocks, turned the soil, augmented it, disturbed the bees, made planting rows, poked his finger in and then Obama hinted that we could buy some seeds, congress hired a bunch of census workers to plant them, then most of the population watered and weeded and will soon harvest and Obama is to blame? It is a group effort people. The group is be you. I blame all of you that always wine about all the things you want from your govt. right down to someone to stop the barking dogs. It is all the same crap. You ask for it over and over again and they are now giving it to you, but you said I just wanted the barking to stop and not mand health insurance and they just say, well your welcome, glad we could help.

If you ask your govt for "something", they only hear "everything" and try to help.

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14 Aug 2010 07:36 #35 by major bean
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The Viking and PrintSmith, please link to one legitimate contemporary news report that documented WMDs. This subject was such a heated debate during the invasion and following that IF any had been found it would have been reported, videoed, printed, and shouted about by the Bush administration.

NOT ONE wmd WAS FOUND.

Don't you remember Chaney trying to defend the decision to invade? Even he could not point to WMDs being found. Bush could not state that WMDs had been found.

Now you say that they were secretely hussled out of Iraq. You are delusional.

(please take note that I am further to the political right than you. But I do not condone the actions and policies of the Bush admin. They totally ignored our system of government and justice.)

Regards,
Major Bean

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14 Aug 2010 08:56 #36 by The Viking
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major bean wrote: The Viking and PrintSmith, please link to one legitimate contemporary news report that documented WMDs. This subject was such a heated debate during the invasion and following that IF any had been found it would have been reported, videoed, printed, and shouted about by the Bush administration.

NOT ONE wmd WAS FOUND.

Don't you remember Chaney trying to defend the decision to invade? Even he could not point to WMDs being found. Bush could not state that WMDs had been found.

Now you say that they were secretely hussled out of Iraq. You are delusional.

(please take note that I am further to the political right than you. But I do not condone the actions and policies of the Bush admin. They totally ignored our system of government and justice.)


I know first hand from someone who was in charge of cleaning them up, and I can sleep knowing that each night. You can live your life by what the media tells you all you want. There are reasons they are not disclosed and they are kept somewhere and it will come out when and if we need to attack Iran.

And I do know you are far to the right and that is why this thread and your responses surprise me.

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14 Aug 2010 09:15 #37 by mugwump
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Obama is too much an intellectual for me. He needs to change his middle initial to 'L'. For this reason I picked Bush, even though he is a traitorous fool.

For years Iraq had served as a strategic buffer between Iran and the rest of the middle east. When it's brutal despot, Saddam overstepped and took over our friend Kuwait, he was taught a bloody lesson. Iraq's buffer effect was one of the wise reasons for the coalition not to invade Iraq and cause a regime change. Bush and his ultra pseudo neoconservative may have read history, but threw any lessons the could have learned into the fireplace to burn. They "Earpded" their way into the Babylonia Casino as if was the vendetta in the Arizona War. In the process they neglected the need to subdue the true threat in Afghanistan, destroyed our strategic Iran buffer and opened Saddam's locked gates, allowing al-Qa'ida in. In addition he ran up our deficit and let the banks and investment houses run riot at the expense of the middle class. Before you draw your gun and try to shoot me from your hip, reason this out! We now place the blame on L Obama in the same movie audience manner we cheered our invasion of Iraq.

Despite all of this, just like so many of us I choose Sheriff Fredric Bernard A. H. Bush over El Obama. Still not a very good choice!

We had a choice with Michael Graves, and we blew it! Blame it on all the airborne marijuana pollen!

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14 Aug 2010 09:34 #38 by mugwump
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The Viking wrote:
I know first hand from someone who was in charge of cleaning them up, and I can sleep knowing that each night. You can live your life by what the media tells you all you want. There are reasons they are not disclosed and they are kept somewhere and it will come out when and if we need to attack Iran.

And I do know you are far to the right and that is why this thread and your responses surprise me.


And I too know, from a much better first hand source that almost two dozen WMD were found. They were buried unusable components from Scud missiles. There were not a trace of lethal chemicals, germs or fissionable substances. You can probably find of the like at the garage near the junction between County Road 43 and US Highway 285 up in your bailiwick.

With the low market prices for scrap aluminum and circuit boards I was the worst of shames to spend American lives and dollars for junk, and to frame the best qualified and useful member of the Bush cabinet.

I bet my "first hand source" can beat up your "I know first hand"! Was that your best "hand"?

I believe that at this point we are initiating a whole new entirely different thread. Let's step outside into the O.K. Corral to "launch" it!

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14 Aug 2010 11:47 #39 by LadyJazzer
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The Viking wrote: I know first hand from someone who was in charge of cleaning them up, and I can sleep knowing that each night. You can live your life by what the media tells you all you want. There are reasons they are not disclosed and they are kept somewhere and it will come out when and if we need to attack Iran.



Shhhhhhhhhh.... They're a secret... (It's like "double-secret probation" in "Animal House.")

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14 Aug 2010 12:27 #40 by The Viking
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LadyJazzer wrote:

The Viking wrote: I know first hand from someone who was in charge of cleaning them up, and I can sleep knowing that each night. You can live your life by what the media tells you all you want. There are reasons they are not disclosed and they are kept somewhere and it will come out when and if we need to attack Iran.



Shhhhhhhhhh.... They're a secret... (It's like "double-secret probation" in "Animal House.")


Knowing the truth makes it so much easier to laugh at your ignorance and naivete. Yes, I am sure the military has absolutely no secrets and tells you and the media everything they they do. :bash

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