Republicans pushing for higher US gas prices

How much easier could we make it to drill?
If we could double the number of rigs it would half the time to exhaustion of our reserves.
Short term fix followed by severe problems in less time.

But if in doubt. go look at the rig counts. Every drill rig in this country is booked for years in advance unless it is managed by a complete idiot. Yes they are building new ones but the demand for new rigs is a world wide demand, not just the US.

I was reading on your Ethanol post. This is a fuel I agree with. Very inefficient but the knowledge that our Farmers can grow the fuel they need to grow food, has a value and a security. Last year that was about 13.3 billion gallons or about 320 million barrels of ethanol for the year. Not much when you consider it required 40% of our corn production. What caught my eye was the decline in production from 2011, why? weather? corn market?

We could nationalize the American oil. It is taken from our soil and sold to anyone with no real benefit to the U.S. The socialists don't have everything wrong.

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ScienceChic wrote:

Reverend Revelant wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: sorry for the sloppy wording, I was trying to dumb it down for you since you were claiming that you had no understanding of it and was requesting explanation.

Where did I say I had "no understanding of it?" You wanted honest debate and right out of the chute you become hateful with a phase "I was trying to dumb it down for you."

My question was "Then tell me. How is this polar vortex created by global warming?" Nothing in that statement indicates I was claiming anything, it wasn't even a declarative sentence.

You don't want honest debate, you want to continue to snark and insult people with your superior "knowledge." I tried to get a conversation going on this polar vortex but I am not going to listen to someone who starts out a conversation with "dumb it down for you."

Forget it.

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I did not watch the whole thing but I did notice the source is the White House. It is sad but true that is not a reputable source. We live in interesting times.

whitegp wrote: How much easier could we make it to drill?
If we could double the number of rigs it would half the time to exhaustion of our reserves.
Short term fix followed by severe problems in less time.

But if in doubt. go look at the rig counts. Every drill rig in this country is booked for years in advance unless it is managed by a complete idiot. Yes they are building new ones but the demand for new rigs is a world wide demand, not just the US.

I was reading on your Ethanol post. This is a fuel I agree with. Very inefficient but the knowledge that our Farmers can grow the fuel they need to grow food, has a value and a security. Last year that was about 13.3 billion gallons or about 320 million barrels of ethanol for the year. Not much when you consider it required 40% of our corn production. What caught my eye was the decline in production from 2011, why? weather? corn market?

Depletion predicted again? Peak oil was predicted to happen decades ago and it didn't. Funny thing reserves are usually a understatement. Why spend money to keep looking when you have enough to pump right now. And if we opened up ANWAR and other restricted sites? Can you be more of an alarmist?

From the EIA Fred.
Peak Oil was predicted and for the US did happen decades ago.
For the World we are on the flat spot at the top of the curve.
It is depletion modeling which is conducted by every Oil/Gas outfit in the World from the day they produce a well -- how much is there and how much can we recover? -- and how long will it last?

As for understating reserves do you really think that BP and Shell are not aware of questionable reserves? You didn't read BPs review did you? They covered this very issue. Besides we firmly believe the middle east is overstating their reserves so they get a bigger quota.
And Royal Dutch Shell got their heads handed to them when they overstated reserves a decade ago, they are very careful.

How much Oil do you think is in ANWR?
From my years in Juneau I can tell you that the Oil companies do not want to drill ANWR. Why do you think so many Repubs voted against opening it? The Oil companies see ANWR as a safe on shore already piped bank account, getting more valuable every day. But what would really make ANWR interesting was if the Nat Gas Line was built and they could sell the gas instead of wasting it as they did on the North Slope. Reinjection Technologies are now the norm but until produced they won't know what was lost.

Alarmist? Called reality Fred. All this info is easily available on the web, imagine what the good stuff looks like. You do not choose to really study the matter - no problem.
For me it comes down to a large part of my living being tied to the cost of Diesel in my boat.

Might just have to convert the boat to CNG. Could be right about OPEC fudging the numbers on how much oil reserves they have left, but so many of the countries that have nationalized oil production like Mexico and Venezuela haven't been investing in the technology needed to get the most out of their reserves. The Mexican president is trying to bring back private oil companies to get more production, but the PRI diehards don't want to share the country's wealth.