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Hobby Lobby Birth Control Case at Supreme Court
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26 Mar 2014 20:16 #41
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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And tens of millions lost their policies because of ACA.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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26 Mar 2014 20:30 #42
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Yeah, I just explained that you egghead
Vice Lord wrote: Well, maybe they didn't have a junk policy but "THE MILLIONS" that "LOST" their policies did... Thats why they lost them, they became illegal. It was a racket
Obama is not going to let you get fleeced no matter how much you insist on it, Fred
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26 Mar 2014 21:01 #43
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Proof? Source?
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No, "tens of millions" didn't...
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FredHayek wrote: And tens of millions lost their policies because of ACA.
Proof? Source?
:LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol
No, "tens of millions" didn't...
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26 Mar 2014 21:37 #44
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled because they didn't meet ACA standards. And now months later since the rollout only five million have signed up on the exchanges. And less than that have actually paid for policies.
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26 Mar 2014 22:07 #45
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Hobby Lobby is a corporation, not a religious organization, they shouldn't get to decide coverage for a personal health decision for their employees. Period.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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Emergency contraception is still a form of birth control. Since it's impossible to tell if fertilization actually occurred within the window that the morning after pill works, you can't say that it's "abortion". It's used because there is a higher likelihood that conception could have occurred (failed contraceptive device or unprotected sex, possibly during ovulation, possibly not) but not every instance of unprotected sex results in fertilization or this planet would've been over-run with humans before now.Reverend Revelant wrote:
Arlen wrote: So the liberals now concede that abortion is a form of birth control. That is a very big admission.
The Green family is not against contrception, but they are against abortion (which the morning after pill induces.)
Liberals really should be honest in how they frame this argument.
That was the answer I was hoping someone would point out (I rarely ask questions I don't have already have the answer to).
The proposition of this thread "I previously mentioned Hobby Lobby and their efforts to be able to refuse offering birth control coverage under the ACA. It's now at the Supreme Court and there's an account of the proceedings here from Think Progress which is attending" is a bit (a lot?) misleading.
Hobby Lobby is concerned with abortifacients ONLY. Hobby Lobby already offers coverage for 16 forms of birth control.
Hobby Lobby is a corporation, not a religious organization, they shouldn't get to decide coverage for a personal health decision for their employees. Period.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
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26 Mar 2014 22:18 #46
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Proof? Source?
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No, "tens of millions" didn't...
But 6.4 million have signed up ... (not 5 million... Still using last month's numbers?)
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FredHayek wrote: Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled because they didn't meet ACA standards. And now months later since the rollout only five million have signed up on the exchanges. And less than that have actually paid for policies.
Proof? Source?
:LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol :LMAO: :rofllol
No, "tens of millions" didn't...
But 6.4 million have signed up ... (not 5 million... Still using last month's numbers?)
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27 Mar 2014 04:59 #47
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Fred.
I can't even find any source anywhere stating that "Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled..."
Why don't you actually link us to such information?
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FredHayek wrote: Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled because they didn't meet ACA standards. And now months later since the rollout only five million have signed up on the exchanges. And less than that have actually paid for policies.
Fred.
I can't even find any source anywhere stating that "Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled..."
Why don't you actually link us to such information?
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27 Mar 2014 09:24 #48
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Fred will now quietly move on to some other thread and post until such time as Fred is asked to prove another unsourced claim. At least Fred is consistent.Reverend Revelant wrote:
FredHayek wrote: Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled because they didn't meet ACA standards. And now months later since the rollout only five million have signed up on the exchanges. And less than that have actually paid for policies.
Fred.
I can't even find any source anywhere stating that "Tens of millions of personal insurance policies were cancelled..."
Why don't you actually link us to such information?
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27 Mar 2014 09:27 #49
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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Okay, maybe it was millions. Personal insurance policies were eliminated because they weren't up to ACA standards.
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27 Mar 2014 09:31 #50
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Typical republican tactic..Lie, Lie then Lie some more. Fred must have learned it from watching FOX News.
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FredHayek wrote: Okay, maybe it was millions. Personal insurance policies were eliminated because they weren't up to ACA standards.
Typical republican tactic..Lie, Lie then Lie some more. Fred must have learned it from watching FOX News.
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