Five Thirty Eight 2016 Election Forecast: Who will win the presidency?

09 Aug 2016 13:48 #1 by ScienceChic
Nate Silver, the guy who accurately predicted the outcomes of the past two presidential elections says it'll be Clinton, with an 87.7% chance of winning.
Who will win the presidency?

We’ve just launched FiveThirtyEight’s 2016 general election forecast, which projects how the 538 Electoral College votes could break down in the presidential election. The forecast will be continually updated through Election Day on Nov. 8. Here’s a bullet-point-style look at how it was built.

What’s new in the model since 2012?

  • Not that much! It’s mostly the same model as the one we used to successfully forecast the 2008 and 2012 elections.
  • There’s no special variable for Republican Donald Trump or Democrat Hillary Clinton. They’re treated the same as any other candidates would be with the same polling numbers.
  • We built procedures to handle Libertarian Gary Johnson and other third-party candidates.
  • We double-checked lots of assumptions and code.
  • We’re now showing different versions of the model: the polls-only and polls-plus forecasts, and the now-cast (what would happen in an election held today).
Our win probabilities come from simulating the election 20,000 times, which produces a distribution of possible outcomes for each state. Here are the expected margins of victory. The closer the dot is to the center line, the tighter the race. And the wider the bar, the less certain the model is about the outcome.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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09 Aug 2016 15:51 #2 by FredHayek
I have to agree. Since 1992, the Democrats have locked up 240 of the 270 electoral votes they need to win. They only need to steal a couple swing states like Florida's 20+ delegates to finish off the GOP. The only way for Trump to win would be to steal one of those true blue states like New York or New Jersey. The only way I see this happening is if Hillary Clinton has a Watergate type scandal and the DNC corruption scandal barely touched her in the polls, or a severe health issue like another stroke.

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09 Aug 2016 20:08 #3 by hillfarmer
Yep. The Donald is already busy l aying the ground work for his conspiracy theory on why he lost the election. We can probably count on him not to concede gracefully.

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10 Aug 2016 08:05 #4 by ramage

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12 Aug 2016 20:04 #5 by Arlen
Trump will win it.

The Democrats are demoralized and will stay home in droves.

The polls currently being put forward are heavily skewed. More Democrats are polled than Republicans which will absolutely skew the results.

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15 Aug 2016 14:36 #6 by Rick

Arlen wrote: Trump will win it.

The Democrats are demoralized and will stay home in droves.

The polls currently being put forward are heavily skewed. More Democrats are polled than Republicans which will absolutely skew the results.

Hide and watch!

I hope you're right. At this point I would crawl through broken glass to vote for a decayed rabid zombie to keep Hillary out of the White House.

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16 Aug 2016 08:28 #7 by FredHayek
Trump voters are more excited about Trump than Hillary voters are about her, but unfortunately there aren't enough of them. The media has come out full force trying to convince America than Donald is insane and it is working. And too many RINO's think Hillary is good enough to vote for. She will support Wall Street over the Sanders/Warren wing of the party.

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18 Oct 2016 18:40 #8 by ScienceChic
After going down to about 75% or so, since the debate and the leaked tape, Clinton's gone back up to 87% chance of winning the election, with an 89.6% chance of winning CO's electoral votes. Only a 49.8% to 42.8% margin of popular vote, but she's got the electoral votes in a landslide, on top of more and more Republicans saying they won't vote for Trump, and several newspapers that have historically only endorsed Republican are endorsing her.

Though it's still a ways off, this election is looking like it's over. Oh, and the Senate race projection has tipped to going Democrat too (74.1% chance of Dems winning control). I'm not bothering to look at media polls because they need a tight race to ensure viewership and ratings.



projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Senate race: projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-electi...ex_cid=2016-forecast

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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19 Oct 2016 15:56 #9 by Something the Dog Said

ScienceChic wrote: After going down to about 75% or so, since the debate and the leaked tape, Clinton's gone back up to 87% chance of winning the election, with an 89.6% chance of winning CO's electoral votes. Only a 49.8% to 42.8% margin of popular vote, but she's got the electoral votes in a landslide, on top of more and more Republicans saying they won't vote for Trump, and several newspapers that have historically only endorsed Republican are endorsing her.

Though it's still a ways off, this election is looking like it's over. Oh, and the Senate race projection has tipped to going Democrat too (74.1% chance of Dems winning control). I'm not bothering to look at media polls because they need a tight race to ensure viewership and ratings.




projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Senate race: projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-electi...ex_cid=2016-forecast


If that holds, then the nation has a real chance to get back on course. With a Senate majority, it is likely the Democrats will put an end to the obstructionism by the GOP (does that really mean Grab Other's P***y?) and trigger the nuclear option to do away with the filibuster. That will enable Hillary to not only replace Scalia with a young progressive justice, but also likely that she will fill Ginsberg, Breyer and Kennedy's seats as well. Possibly even Thomas, as he is rumored to want to get out and make some coin. So there will be a progressive majority for the next 20 - 40 years.

The Republicans will likely be a mess for generations between the Freedom Caucus, the establishment Republicans, and the Trumpers. A possible majority for Democrats in the House is also trending as well, but not as likely.

Can't wait to see the responses.

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25 Oct 2016 15:48 #10 by ramage
Should Hillary win, the country will be extremely polarized with the significant minority no longer confident in the process. Should Hillary lose, an Al Gore maneuver will be attempted if the election is close; if not many of her voters will move on, happy to have gotten beer money, while others will do a Fergurson. Should Trump lose by a close margin, the Republican Establishment will be cast into the wilderness for not supporting the candidate of the party This will satisfy the NeverTrumpers, as they make there living commentating rather than producing. If Trump should lose by a wide margin, there will be a significant portion of the population (read: flyover country) who will grudgingly continue to support the USA but will take over state politics, for whatever that will be worth, in a Clinton administration.
Fortunately Hillary's health is such that Bill Clinton will effectively run the White House with Kaine waiting in the curtains, if Kaine should be elevate to the presidency then a truly third term of Obama. This is something that Bill would not like and we can expect him to prop here up, with many "rests" as has done during the campaign.
Overall, a grim outlook.

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