There Will Be No Debates

koobookie wrote:

FredHayek wrote: And actually I don't see a problem with making it difficult to take down a president. Presidents tend to have peaks and valleys during their time in office but you need to give them time to fix things, not changing a horse in midstream.

Are you really using the "don't change horse midstream" argument? If that were actually valid, then we should never change presidents, since - what - we need continuity?

My point, Fred, is that Trump was not exonerated, as you had implied in your post.

You inferred you actually meant. Trump wasn't removed from office because of politics. His party supported him. Hence why I used the example of Nixon. He knew he didn't have the votes to survive impeachment so he resigned.

Maybe I am just more cynical than you, but I think all presidents commit crimes in office. They may even rise to the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors, but you can't be replacing them every few months. Just like you can't arrest every speeder on 285. Or even every felony drug user in Evergreen.

homeagain wrote:
I can only speak for myself...I would NOT want my child/grandchild in school.

So while every other country in the world is opening schools, we have to force parents to stay home from work because our brilliant administrators and teachers can't figure it out. They are all getting paid to stay home so the incentive probably isn't very strong, understandably. Oh I know, it's all Trump's fault because even though he really isn't a king and doesn't have the power to do what a king does, he's supposed to figure out every problem in every school in this country. I swear this country would collapse in days if there was ever a real crisis, regardless of who is president.

Rick wrote:

homeagain wrote:
I can only speak for myself...I would NOT want my child/grandchild in school.

So while every other country in the world is opening schools, we have to force parents to stay home from work because our brilliant administrators and teachers can't figure it out. They are all getting paid to stay home so the incentive probably isn't very strong, understandably. Oh I know, it's all Trump's fault because even though he really isn't a king and doesn't have the power to do what a king does, he's supposed to figure out every problem in every school in this country. I swear this country would collapse in days if there was ever a real crisis, regardless of who is president.

Every other country? Are you sure?

Most other first world countries are seeing lower daily new cases. Spain, Italy, France, Germany, UK, New Zealand - all have lowered the curve. Our daily new cases seem to hit new highs every single day for the past few weeks.

Of course it is Trump's fault. He is the President, and the buck should stop with him. He should be leading a consistent strategy for dealing with this crisis - and it is a REAL crisis - but he has passed on any responsibility. Remember when he uttered that phrase a few months ago?

He has the Department of Education to which he can delegate the decision on re-opening schools. What is the plan that DeVos has come up with? Is it sound? Is it realistic? Is it in the best interests of the health and well being of the children? What has the Trump administration done to help state and local administrators to figure out how to re-open the schools?

How is it that many other countries seem to have a handle on this virus, but USA does not?

Can you give us examples of other countries that "have a handle on this virus"?

Pony Soldier wrote: Can you give us examples of other countries that "have a handle on this virus"?

covid19.who.int/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgOOI_...4EAAYASAAEgIb3fD_BwE

DASHBOARD indicates Western Pacific.....

Pony Soldier wrote: Can you give us examples of other countries that "have a handle on this virus"?

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

New Zealand has ‘effectively eliminated’ coronavirus. Here’s what they did right.
www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/2020/0...attling-coronavirus/

New Zealand eradicates coronavirus, at least for now
www.cbsnews.com/news/new-zealand-declare...ster-jacinda-ardern/

New Zealand is basically an isolated island nation, not apples and oranges. If you look at metrics that actually mean something, like cases per million population and deaths per million populations, the US is pretty much right in the middle. Trump followed the advice from his CDC staff, including Fauci, and still is following that advice.

BTW, really HA?? You are going to cite the WHO?? After their provable lies that helped to cause massive spread of this virus? I'm sorry, but you just lost any shred of credibility.

Pony Soldier wrote: New Zealand is basically an isolated island nation, not apples and oranges. If you look at metrics that actually mean something, like cases per million population and deaths per million populations, the US is pretty much right in the middle. Trump followed the advice from his CDC staff, including Fauci, and still is following that advice.

BTW, really HA?? You are going to cite the WHO?? After their provable lies that helped to cause massive spread of this virus? I'm sorry, but you just lost any shred of credibility.

I grabbed the first source,which agrees with Koo's source...Wes.Pac

Check out the graph "Daily new cases and deaths"

covidgraph.com/