Dear Angry American, Joining Tea Party NOT Your Only Option

23 Sep 2010 21:59 #51 by Wayne Harrison
That came from this (follow along)

1. Your first post is predicting the Republicans will pick up even more seats in November

2. I remember (apparently mistakenly) you predicting a day or so before the last presidential election that McCain would win.

Since you say it wasn't you, my memory is obviously faulty. It was one of you right-wingers, though, who posted on Pinecam in the election thread that the polls were wrong and McCain/Palin would win. That poster may even have said the poll results were skewed by the librul media.

That's what it has to do with this thread: another prediction -- a past prediction. Being a left-wing, moonbat crazy communist socialist Muslim sympathizer, I'm used to conversations going off on tangents. Apparently your brain only works in a single direction.

So you're saying you didn't think then that McCain would win?

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23 Sep 2010 22:42 #52 by RCCL

Wayne Harrison wrote: Well all you have to do is find where Jefferson said it or wrote it. I found where Gerald Ford said it. If he was quoting Jefferson, you'd think he'd give him credit, but then we are talking about Gerald Ford.

Like I said the sentence doesn't sound remotely like something someone in the 18th Century would say.

Actually... it sounds a lot like something he'd say. Is PBS reputable enough for a source?

PBS wrote: The Sedition Act made it a crime to slander officials of the federal government. In response to these Acts, which he opposed, Jefferson wrote the Kentucky resolutions, a treatise declaring that a state had the power to "nullify" a bad law passed by Congress. Due in large part to the Alien and Sedition Acts' unpopularity, the Republicans enjoyed a rise in power.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/duel/peopl ... nde07.html

Sure, this is only one example, but Jefferson was against Federalism and everything that would come along with it. It sound exactly like something he would say, and believe strongly in.

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23 Sep 2010 22:48 #53 by The Viking

Wayne Harrison wrote: That came from this (follow along)

1. Your first post is predicting the Republicans will pick up even more seats in November

2. I remember (apparently mistakenly) you predicting a day or so before the last presidential election that McCain would win.

Since you say it wasn't you, my memory is obviously faulty. It was one of you right-wingers, though, who posted on Pinecam in the election thread that the polls were wrong and McCain/Palin would win. That poster may even have said the poll results were skewed by the librul media.

That's what it has to do with this thread: another prediction -- a past prediction. Being a left-wing, moonbat crazy communist socialist Muslim sympathizer, I'm used to conversations going off on tangents. Apparently your brain only works in a single direction.

So you're saying you didn't think then that McCain would win?


I was hoping and when he picked Palin it gave him a boost for a bit but I always thought he was in trouble and the polls showed it. I didn't hold out much hope he would win, no. But you can go look and see if you can find me saying that. But I never thought the polls were off. Rasmussen is normally right on and they had McCain losing and not much hope.

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23 Sep 2010 23:41 #54 by Spykster

The Viking wrote:

Wayne Harrison wrote: That came from this (follow along)

1. Your first post is predicting the Republicans will pick up even more seats in November

2. I remember (apparently mistakenly) you predicting a day or so before the last presidential election that McCain would win.

Since you say it wasn't you, my memory is obviously faulty. It was one of you right-wingers, though, who posted on Pinecam in the election thread that the polls were wrong and McCain/Palin would win. That poster may even have said the poll results were skewed by the librul media.

That's what it has to do with this thread: another prediction -- a past prediction. Being a left-wing, moonbat crazy communist socialist Muslim sympathizer, I'm used to conversations going off on tangents. Apparently your brain only works in a single direction.

So you're saying you didn't think then that McCain would win?


I was hoping and when he picked Palin it gave him a boost for a bit but I always thought he was in trouble and the polls showed it. I didn't hold out much hope he would win, no. But you can go look and see if you can find me saying that. But I never thought the polls were off. Rasmussen is normally right on and they had McCain losing and not much hope.

Stay the course...don't follow the deflection...

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23 Sep 2010 23:48 #55 by Wayne Harrison

RCCL wrote:

Wayne Harrison wrote: Well all you have to do is find where Jefferson said it or wrote it. I found where Gerald Ford said it. If he was quoting Jefferson, you'd think he'd give him credit, but then we are talking about Gerald Ford.

Like I said the sentence doesn't sound remotely like something someone in the 18th Century would say.

Actually... it sounds a lot like something he'd say.


I think you're confusing what his views were with what English was in the 18th Century. I meant it doesn't sound like a sentence constructed in the 18th Century.

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24 Sep 2010 13:32 #56 by ColoradoXprss

The Viking wrote:

Wayne Harrison wrote: The Tea Party wants to slash government spending/programs, forgetting the money spent actually goes into the economy.

Just wait till our infrastructure is crumbling from lack of government spending and people are out of work with nowhere to turn.

Look how great the TABOR amendment worked out for Colorado.


Our governemnt spending has more than quadrupled in the last few years. Did our country and infrastructure grow that much in a few years? Really? We need to get it back into the PRIVATE sector to create jobs. Not the government where they spend $500 on a toilet seat. There is more than enough money for our infrastructure if it is spent right. And the government is not good at that at all. You give them $100,000 for a bridge they will build it. You give them $1 million for the same bridge, they will find a way to spend it. THE GOVERNMENT WASTES OUR MONEY. They need to learn to live within a budget like the rest of us do.

And again, stop with the drama queen crap about our infrastructure falling down around us and bridges collapsing if they don't get more money. THE MONEY IS THERE! They just have to be responsible with it and use it wisely and keep doing what we have done for decades. They don't all of the sudden need 4 times the amount of money for the same work.



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24 Sep 2010 14:28 #57 by FredHayek
I always have to laugh when I hear people thinking polls are lying.
If you are a political pollster and keep giving your employers, often political parties, inaccurate results, they will find another pollster to hire.
Rasmussen is getting some heat from the Left right now because it is showing probable voters supporting a Republican landslide. Personally I think most early voters are going to be Republican just because they are more excited, but I expect the Dems to close much of the gap once they realize they don't want a TEA party country.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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24 Sep 2010 18:29 #58 by PrintSmith
Polls are nothing more than a snapshot in time of what the people polled thought at that time - which is why the numbers are in a constant state of flux and no two polls taken on the same subject will return the same percentages. The answers you get will depend in large part on how the questions that are asked are worded.

Do I think that recent polls showing Hick in front of the pack are accurate? Overall, yeah, I do, but I also think that those numbers are pretty worthless this far away from the day the votes are cast unless you are someone who is hoping to keep certain people home on election day by convincing them that the results in November have already been determined.

I'm sure that Hick's support in Boulder and Denver proper is well above the number shown in the poll and just as convinced that his support outside of those two areas is much lower than the number reflects. They mostly show the current trend or a general feeling or attitude about a given subject or person.

Right now, the progressives are hoping that a divided conservative block will allow them to retain enough control that they can continue to cram their ideology down the throat of the nation at the national and local levels. What they are hoping doesn't happen is that the conservatives form a coalition to ensure that it doesn't come about. The unaffiliated block of voters is the largest in the state at about 45%. What that tells me is that most folks are fed up with both major parties, but they will still be casting a vote for one of them on election day rather than throw their support behind a minor party alternative. The longer things stay bad the more likely it will be that the populace comes to the conclusion that you simply can't dig yourself out of a hole, even with a trillion dollar excavator. That will be bad news for any politician, regardless of party, with a record of supporting spending that has only deepened the hole.

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24 Sep 2010 19:31 #59 by archer

PrintSmith wrote: Right now, the progressives are hoping that a divided conservative block will allow them to retain enough control that they can continue to cram their ideology down the throat of the nation at the national and local levels.



As oppposed to the conservatives cramming their ideology down the throat of the nation at the national and local levels? Frankly, the conservative ideology scares me a hell of a lot.....this may well be a classic case of be careful what you wish for. the Tea Party may well bring this country to it's knees before they are done. All in the name of fear.

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24 Sep 2010 21:19 - 25 Sep 2010 08:53 #60 by The Viking

archer wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: Right now, the progressives are hoping that a divided conservative block will allow them to retain enough control that they can continue to cram their ideology down the throat of the nation at the national and local levels.



As oppposed to the conservatives cramming their ideology down the throat of the nation at the national and local levels? Frankly, the conservative ideology scares me a hell of a lot.....this may well be a classic case of be careful what you wish for. the Tea Party may well bring this country to it's knees before they are done. All in the name of fear.


Which ideology scares you? smaller government? Less wasteful spending? Lower taxes? More personal responsibility? Less government takeovers? What exactly scares you?

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