What happened to the problem of illegal aliens?

11 May 2011 15:14 #151 by Nmysys
Are we a nation of complicit, ideological, fools? President Obama blatantly attempted to lie, deceive, and misrepresent the truth about the border and illegal immigration yesterday. It is clear he wants, needs, and expects us to be complicit, idealogical FOOLS! Treating the American people like we are non-thinking fools, is the ultimate indignity!!

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12 May 2011 06:31 #152 by TPP

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12 May 2011 09:01 #153 by Rockdoc
What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.

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12 May 2011 09:14 #154 by UNDER MODERATION
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Rockdoc Franz wrote: What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.



Hey...We got real problems in this country so were not gonna spend trillions of dollars inforcing visa overstayer laws...All we have to do is throw a few employers in jail if they knowingly hire them, and Viola! The problem goes away...No billion dollar walls, no need to create another giant border security beurocracy, no need for you guys to be scared of our way of life changing......

Problem solved- The problem is that the employers have bought the republican party and employers (aka Corporate interests) are in charge, and they love reducing thier overhead by exploiting these poor unfortunate souls- so don't expect real changes anytime soon..And blame your own ignorance for the situation- If you vote republican, youre voting for corporate interests and those interests are not your interests in just about ALL cases.

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12 May 2011 09:15 #155 by Rockdoc

Vice Lord wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.



Hey...We got real problems in this country so were not gonna spend trillions of dollars inforcing visa overstayer laws...All we have to do is throw a few employers in jail if they knowingly hire them, and Viola! The problem goes away...No billion dollar walls, no need to create another giant border security beurocracy, no need for you guys to be scared of our way of life changing......

Problem solved- The problem is that the employers have bought the republican party and employers (aka Corporate interests) are in charge, and they love reducing thier overhead by exploiting these poor unfortunate souls- so don't expect real changes anytime soon..And blame your own ignorance for the situation- If you vote republican, youre voting for corporate interests and those interests are not your interests in just about ALL cases.


I'm not even going to address this nonsense. I'll leave that for someone else.

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12 May 2011 09:18 #156 by UNDER MODERATION
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Rockdoc Franz wrote:

Vice Lord wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.



Hey...We got real problems in this country so were not gonna spend trillions of dollars inforcing visa overstayer laws...All we have to do is throw a few employers in jail if they knowingly hire them, and Viola! The problem goes away...No billion dollar walls, no need to create another giant border security beurocracy, no need for you guys to be scared of our way of life changing......

Problem solved- The problem is that the employers have bought the republican party and employers (aka Corporate interests) are in charge, and they love reducing thier overhead by exploiting these poor unfortunate souls- so don't expect real changes anytime soon..And blame your own ignorance for the situation- If you vote republican, youre voting for corporate interests and those interests are not your interests in just about ALL cases.


I'm not even going to address this nonsense. I'll leave that for someone else.



I'll simplify it for you- Were not gonna put all our resources into prosecuting jay walkers, while letting murderers run free...Understand now?

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12 May 2011 09:26 #157 by TPP

Rockdoc Franz wrote: What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.

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12 May 2011 09:33 #158 by TPP

Rockdoc Franz wrote:

Vice Lord wrote:

Rockdoc Franz wrote: What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.



Hey...We got real problems in this country so were not gonna spend trillions of dollars inforcing visa overstayer laws...All we have to do is throw a few employers in jail if they knowingly hire them, and Viola! The problem goes away...No billion dollar walls, no need to create another giant border security beurocracy, no need for you guys to be scared of our way of life changing......

Problem solved- The problem is that the employers have bought the republican party and employers (aka Corporate interests) are in charge, and they love reducing thier overhead by exploiting these poor unfortunate souls- so don't expect real changes anytime soon..And blame your own ignorance for the situation- If you vote republican, youre voting for corporate interests and those interests are not your interests in just about ALL cases.


I'm not even going to address this nonsense. I'll leave that for someone else.


I'll do it, UNIONS are/have killed COMPANIES, with they're outragous demands, thus forcing the companies to hire cheaper labor, thus welcoming lawbreakers, so they can HOPE to make a profit! and stay in business, START by busting the UNREASONABLE DEMANDS of the unions, (and don't give me that living wage crap, the unions had they're place, THEY ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY, federal & State laws have replaced them), then bust the companies still hiring lawbreakers. If there is NO DEMAND for labor, the problem will go away.
The leftist are screaming about "equal this, equal that", well that goes both ways.
As Management, I don't make (or get the bennies of a line union worker, it's NOT FAIR)... :biggrin:

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12 May 2011 09:53 #159 by major bean

Rockdoc Franz wrote: What I fail to understand is the need to change the immigration laws. That is not the source of the problem. The REAL problem is in enforcement and native conditions south of the border. We are not responsible for living conditions south of our boarder, but we ARE responsible for securing our border and enforcing immigration law. Dhu.

Current immigration laws as they relate to a work visa encourage illegal immigration. Legally entering the U.S. to work from Mexico is too expensive for the workers. The only alternative is illegal migration. That portion of the immigration law must be changed.

Regards,
Major Bean

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12 May 2011 10:47 - 12 May 2011 11:50 #160 by UNDER MODERATION
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TPP wrote: I'll do it, UNIONS are/have killed COMPANIES, with they're outragous demands, thus forcing the companies to hire cheaper labor, thus welcoming lawbreakers, so they can HOPE to make a profit! and stay in business, START by busting the UNREASONABLE DEMANDS of the unions, (and don't give me that living wage crap, the unions had they're place, THEY ARE NO LONGER NECESSARY, federal & State laws have replaced them), then bust the companies still hiring lawbreakers. If there is NO DEMAND for labor, the problem will go away.
The leftist are screaming about "equal this, equal that", well that goes both ways.
As Management, I don't make (or get the bennies of a line union worker, it's NOT FAIR)... :biggrin:




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