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towermonkey wrote: If, at some point in the future, it is found that Obama was not eligible to be president for whatever reason, all of the people like me, who think the birthers are a bit nuts, are going to feel pretty foolish.

I'd feel pretty much the way I'd feel if someone produced a living specimen of Big Foot.

We know absolutely nothing about Obama. No school records, no childhood, no college records, no medical records, Nothing. He has had them sealed up.

Who is Obama? Why does he have attorneys working to keep his history a secret? What is he hiding? Why is he hiding it?

Historians will eventually discover these things. he cannot hide forever.

I guess you guys just want to argue...

We cannot guess what you want (judging by your post).

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/obama- ... niversity/

Barack Obama was a transfer student from California’s Occidental College when he came to Columbia University in 1981 as a 20-year-old junior. More than 20,000 students currently attend Columbia. The enrollment in the early ’80s might have been lower, but not everybody would have met or remembered Obama. And it’s absolutely untrue that "not one person has ever come forward" from his years there, or that he is "the man who wasn’t there."

Columbia University proudly claims Obama as a 1983 graduate. The university magazine Columbia College Today profiled him as far back as 2005, after he was elected to the U.S. Senate.

Last year, the New York Times wrote about Phil Boerner, who roomed with the future president during his first year at Columbia. The article included excerpts from the Columbia student directory, showing Obama living during his junior year at 142 West 109th Street near Columbia’s campus in New York City, and during his senior year at 339 East 94th Street. Boerner recalled that Obama sometimes wrapped himself in a sleeping bag to keep warm in the chilly apartment they shared, and that some nights he would cook chicken curry for dinner.

Here's more that might answer some of your questions: (note that this is in reference to a fake email from someone pretending to be TV Detective "Columbo")
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/clueless-columbo/

Probing for some evidence that Obama perhaps isn’t actually a U.S. citizen, the fake detective asks "Why were you getting ‘foreign student aid’ as a college student?" But Obama got no such aid. That question repeats a claim made in an April Fools’ Day hoax that we exposed last May. He also asks, "Which countries [sic] ‘passport’ did you have when you visited Pakistan in 1981," suggesting that Obama must have traveled on a non-U.S. passport. But as we reported June 5, Americans routinely traveled to Pakistan using U.S. passports in 1981, and a conservative blogger’s claim that Obama necessarily used a foreign passport is false.

"Colombo’s" most blatantly false claim is that Obama has "not released" any "Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth." That’s simply not true, as we reported Aug. 21, 2008. We posted high-resolution digital photos of Obama’s "Certification of Live Birth" showing quite clearly that it is indeed embossed with the official state seal of Hawaii and also bears the signature of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp for these things). As we reported, that document is legal proof of Obama’s citizenship, meeting the requirements for obtaining a U.S. passport from the State Department.

Nevertheless, "Columbo" asks for more. He wants a certified copy of an "original" birth certificate, presumably meaning whatever form was filled out at Kapi’olani hospital when Obama was born there on Aug. 4, 1961. Such a document may well exist, but it would be in the file drawers of the state of Hawaii, and the state does not release those. Since 2001, the only document the state gives to those who want proof of their birth is a "certification" like the one Obama released. But we have excellent evidence that Obama’s "certification" accurately reflects whatever the state has on file. Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the state’s Department of Health, states that she has seen the "original vital records" and that all is in order.

And more:

"Columbo" asks why Obama’s medical records were "not released." Actually, neither Obama nor his rival John McCain made complete disclosure of medical records in the 2008 campaign. McCain allowed a select group of reporters to look over his for three hours, but allowed no photocopies to be made. Obama’s personal physician provided reporters with a detailed summary of his health status in May 2008, pronouncing him "in excellent health" with a normal electrocardiogram and normal lab results — including a cholesterol level of 173. There are surely plenty of other medical records pertaining to Obama that are not public, but we know of no evidence that these might contradict what his doctor says. And "Columbo" doesn’t provide any such evidence either.

This tactic is repeated in other questions that are meant to raise suspicions by asking for records that aren’t ordinarily made public, without any evidence that those records contain anything derogatory. "Columbo" notes that Obama’s student records from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School are "not released," for example. But the truth is that it would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for those institutions to give those records to reporters or members of the public without Obama’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t given that permission, but other presidential candidates generally don’t either. George W. Bush didn’t give permission to either Andover or Yale to release his grades when he was running for president, for example, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. We have no idea whether any embarrassing secrets might yet be lurking in Obama’s old student records. But neither does the author of this "Columbo" interrogation.

Kate, was Obama a "transfer" student or an "exchange" student. If he would allow those records to be released then all of the questions would be answered.

If he was an exchange student, then that means that he, in effect, renounced his U.S. citizenship in order to have his tuition paid.

If he would release these records then all of the questions would be answered. It would cost him nothing to release these records.

Until then, he wants us to accept who he says that he is. "Trust me!".

major bean wrote: Kate, was Obama a "transfer" student or an "exchange" student. If he would allow those records to be released then all of the questions would be answered.

If he was an exchange student, then that means that he, in effect, renounced his U.S. citizenship in order to have his tuition paid.

If he would release these records then all of the questions would be answered. It would cost him nothing to release these records.

Until then, he wants us to accept who he says that he is. "Trust me!".

He was a transfer student.

Barack Obama was a transfer student from California’s Occidental College when he came to Columbia University in 1981 as a 20-year-old junior.

School (and medical) records are not typically released for Presidential candidates.

"Columbo" notes that Obama’s student records from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School are "not released," for example. But the truth is that it would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for those institutions to give those records to reporters or members of the public without Obama’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t given that permission, but other presidential candidates generally don’t either. George W. Bush didn’t give permission to either Andover or Yale to release his grades when he was running for president, for example, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. We have no idea whether any embarrassing secrets might yet be lurking in Obama’s old student records. But neither does the author of this "Columbo" interrogation.

Not sure what you are hoping to find by your speculations.

Obama is depending upon the apologists to defend him. They are worshipers. They do not know any more about Obama than those who question who he is. They defend him blindly based upon faith. They do not have access to the records.

The apologists are fools.

What have we "apologists" presented that is incorrect or not factual? I think actual facts have been presented fairly well and we don't have to "defend him blindly based on faith."

major bean wrote: Obama is depending upon the apologists to defend him. They are worshipers. They do not know any more about Obama than those who question who he is. They defend him blindly based upon faith. They do not have access to the records.

The apologists are fools.

LOL, not such fools that we can't all see right through your childish Catch 22 tactics. Demand that people provide you with "answers" to questions that don't really exist except in the fevered imaginations of Birthers, and if no one will play your game, you can declare yourself vindicated. If anyone is fool enough to provide you with actual facts, you just dismiss them as "worshippers" who take everything on "faith".

Those are dirtbag tactics, employed only by those who are desperate to dig up some dirt, ANY dirt. And failing to actually find any, you can always fall back on insinuating that there MUST be dirt, just because no one can prove to you by any rational means that there is no evidence any exists. You will come up with "question" after "question" no matter how many facts are presented to you, because no matter what, you will not give up your desperate desire to discredit this man, who is after all The President of the United States whether you like it or not.