Kate wrote: What have we "apologists" presented that is incorrect or not factual? I think actual facts have been presented fairly well and we don't have to "defend him blindly based on faith."
How would we know if what you have presented is fact? Can you produce Obama's records to substantiate your arguments?
Kate wrote: What have we "apologists" presented that is incorrect or not factual? I think actual facts have been presented fairly well and we don't have to "defend him blindly based on faith."
How would we know if what you have presented is fact? Can you produce Obama's records to substantiate your arguments?
The answer is "NO".
I've shown you, in several posts, facts that can be substantiated independently through research (which can be found on the web.) You dismiss this evidence by saying "how do I know it's fact?" Seriously? When you ask a question, I have researched it for you, found the answer, and then presented it here. If you don't like the answer, you have the opportunity to research it yourself and find the truth independently.
major bean wrote: That is extreme nonsense.
What is presented on the internet in your support is rumor, started by Obama who will not document it!
Can you support your statement that the facts I've presented are rumor? Please show something this time instead of accusations. Preferably, could you take one of the posts I've posted in this thread and tear it apart with links, footnotes, facts, research, etc?
This isn't a game, it's a discussion. You make a statement and you should be able to back it up. Apparently, you cannot. All you have provided so far, is insinuation and rumor - no facts.
All I have is questions about the records that document the life of Obama. I do not have an interest in who Obama says that he is. I do not have an interest in the arguments of his supporters who says that Obama is telling a true story of who he is.
My only interest is in the records that would substantiate his narrative of who he is.
No editorial will be a substitute.
No evaluation will be a susbsitute.
No concensus of opinion will be a substitute.
No peer pressure will be a substitute.
No political correctness will be a substitute.
Only the records will be enough to document who Obama might be. Nothing else.
Until these records are produced, all that Obama apologists are playing is a game.
Just wondering, do you happen to have an original copy of the Ten Commandments handy? If you refuse to produce them, how do you expect anyone to believe in them?