Obama's Chances of Being Elected?

19 Sep 2011 10:18 #41 by Wayne Harrison
It took 8 years to get us where we were financially when Bush left office.

Take Obama out of the equation. How long will it take for the economy to turn around? That's anyone's guess. There are too many variables. If a Republican takes over, I'm not even sure it will have recovered by the end of their term.

And I agree he doesn't have the experience but then it's really not the president's experience that we're relying on. It's the experience of those around him. So far, none of his advisers have come up with the answer either.

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19 Sep 2011 15:11 #42 by Martin Ent Inc
With an overall approval rating of 39%, if he gets reelected, there will be riots. And probably a large scale revolt. If a white, male Republican gets elected, there will be race riots. And possibly a large scale revolt. If the zombies come, most of the slow, fat welfare leeches will succumb in a hurry, and we'll have a relatively peaceful country where people respect hard work and mutually beneficial cooperation again.

Zombies 2012!!!

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19 Sep 2011 15:14 #43 by HEARTLESS

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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19 Sep 2011 16:44 #44 by PrintSmith

AspenValley wrote:

CriticalBill wrote: [, I would be happy as a clam and so would anyone who's life is directly affected by the economy.


I'm sorry, but history doesn't support that claim. I seem to remember a heck of a lot of Republicans frothing at the mouth trying to impeach Clinton when the economy was humming along just fine. And not just politicians, either.

And there were Republicans talking about impeaching Obama before he even took office.

Might that have had something to do with his committing perjury and violating the most fundamental aspect of our judicial system after having sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution? We pride ourselves on being a nation of laws, don't we? Shouldn't lying to a court of law on a matter that is material before the court be considered a high crime against our system of government in your mind?

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19 Sep 2011 17:13 #45 by PrintSmith

Wayne-O wrote: It took 8 years to get us where we were financially when Bush left office.

Take Obama out of the equation. How long will it take for the economy to turn around? That's anyone's guess. There are too many variables. If a Republican takes over, I'm not even sure it will have recovered by the end of their term.

And I agree he doesn't have the experience but then it's really not the president's experience that we're relying on. It's the experience of those around him. So far, none of his advisers have come up with the answer either.

Spoken like a true partisan. It took us 8 years to get there? How about we try 70 years as a more accurate number. 70 years of the federal government seeking to consolidate into itself all powers of governance regardless of which party was currently ruling the roost. Doesn't matter whether you are talking about a Republican consolidationist or one from the party of Democrats. The problem we currently have is that too much power and authority have been located in the federal government, which is what allows all of that special interest lobbying to be a fruitful and worthwhile endeavor. Without the usurped authority to tell a farmer how much wheat they are allowed to grow, including wheat for their own consumption, how much benefit can be derived from lobbying the federal government to support Big Agra initiatives which harm the family farmer? Without federal wage caps on industries, how much benefit can be derived from lobbying the federal government to support, and subsidize, company provided health insurance as a benefit for the worker? Absent federal power to prevent a company from building a factory where they are able to find a labor pool unlikely to interrupt construction of the company's main product, what benefit is gained from taking money from union dues and using it to purchase a seat in the federal legislature?

The problems we have stem from the monopoly of governing authority currently enjoyed by the federal government. It is government intervention into the domestic affairs of the States and the usurpation of that power from the States that has led us to this place in time. Monopolies are inherently a bad idea and a monopoly of government is perhaps the worst of all monopolies as well as ultimately the most damaging.

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19 Sep 2011 19:37 #46 by Wayne Harrison

Martin Ent Inc wrote: With an overall approval rating of 39%, if he gets reelected, there will be riots.


I seem to recall a warning about riots if Obama was elected the first time. They never happened.

If there are riots following a presidential election in the United States then that will be the beginning for the end. As in court decisions we don't agree with, the election of someone we don't support is protected in America. It will be a sad day if so-called Americans riot because their candidate was not elected.

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19 Sep 2011 19:56 #47 by Martin Ent Inc
and if he doesn't there will be riots.

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19 Sep 2011 20:28 #48 by Wayne Harrison
Why is it always doom and gloom from the right? You should go to McDonalds and by a Never Happy Meal.

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20 Sep 2011 05:30 #49 by HEARTLESS

Wayne-O wrote: Why is it always doom and gloom from the right? You should go to McDonalds and by a Never Happy Meal.

Wayne, that would be "buy" a Never Happy Meal. And the Left can buy the Terminally Stupid Meal.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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20 Sep 2011 06:30 #50 by Rockdoc

Wayne-O wrote: It took 8 years to get us where we were financially when Bush left office.

Take Obama out of the equation. How long will it take for the economy to turn around? That's anyone's guess. There are too many variables. If a Republican takes over, I'm not even sure it will have recovered by the end of their term.

And I agree he doesn't have the experience but then it's really not the president's experience that we're relying on. It's the experience of those around him. So far, none of his advisers have come up with the answer either.

You've put your finger on a fundamental problem. Obama's selection of advisors is horrible. One example I know of all too well concerns the commission he appointed to oversee the Gulf oil spill. Not one expert from the oil industry on that committee. One can not afford to learn as you go along when there are critical issues at stake. You may not like putting some people on a particular committee or chose them as an advisor, but for the sake of our country that is what he needed to do. Of course, the choices were his to make and there is no need to point anywhere but at himself if his advisors did not direct him better.

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