Conservatives: Out & Proud?

07 Dec 2011 20:27 #1 by FredHayek
If you are a conservative, do you make that public knowledge? Or do you keep quiet in your workplace and with your family and neighbors because you fear backlash?

Most people I work with know I am conservative but I don't discuss it much. I don't fear backlash but I do know others who do worry about that. I have seen a few people who will turn down conservative talk radio because they don't want others to know their political affiliation.

And Liberals, do you ever keep your lefty leanings under wrap? Or worry about being persecuted for your beliefs? Won't put political bumperstickers on the car?

I have a couple pro-gun car window decals but they tend to be known only to other gun owners and not like a NRA sticker.

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07 Dec 2011 21:46 #2 by chickaree
I don't hide my political affiliations, but then I don't demonize those who feel differently. Political talk radio is just ugly and not fit for public consumption. It's political porn. I don't put stickers on my car at all.

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07 Dec 2011 22:15 #3 by ScienceChic

chickaree wrote: I don't hide my political affiliations, but then I don't demonize those who feel differently. Political talk radio is just ugly and not fit for public consumption. It's political porn. I don't put stickers on my car at all.

:yeahthat: exactly. I'd be talking to myself a lot in my current workplace! :biggrin: but back when I did work in the lab, politics was rarely discussed - we were either too busy working, or it wasn't an important topic (more likely the latter rather than the former). Getting to know co-workers is great, but most of the people I ever worked with were very apolitical. My family and neighbors are radically different from me, for the most part, so usually/mostly I listen, rather than talk. Keeps my life simpler that way.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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08 Dec 2011 02:18 #4 by Reverend Revelant
I don't hide anything, from anyone. My politics are not part of a personality contest. They are part of me, and I'm not about to tread lightly just because my ideologies may bother someone. We have enough politically correct wimps.

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08 Dec 2011 05:18 #5 by The Boss
In general, I let people know what I think, especially "conservative" parents sapping off the socialist school system or this obsession with authority and govt control of everything...but I am in charge of most of the things in my life.

I do bite my toung a little when I am representing for clients, as they are interacting with me for my services and not my politics for the most part. I do always point out, though, the 20-50% increase in the cost of my services in just about any field due to regulations and taxes.

I do often think back to a post on this board where an employer had to cut down staff due to economy and could not decide who because everyone is the same, except that he noticed that some of the employees had voted for Obama and since this employer blamed Obama for the 1st and 2nd gulf wars, fired all the Obama sticker people. It does not matter that the boss did not understand recent history. I take that as a lesson that we don't know who will be vilified in just a couple years, months or days. We can flip on a dime as a modern society, look what people are doing to Muslims and did to the Jewish People and likely will again. So, biting your tongue when you meet people that you could picture turning into Nazis or interact with people that have that potential, is not such a bad thing. As I know many of us could be locked up or treated very different for our opinion, you do have to pay some attention.

I think liberals have more to worry about than conservatives... though I am conservative in most views, I still see conservatives as having more of a potential to create a police state (maybe not 20 years ago, but now, more cops always seems to be good for conservatives) via compromising their core morals or fear of OWS protesters than liberals. Thus liberals should be more afraid of voicing their views, at least for the next few years, but after that, the gov will be so large that conservatives will start sounding like a fringe group. Conservatives will start arguing for distributing money in some different way and that is what makes them conservative, even if they are more liberal than today's liberals. Oh and any parent that took money from their neighbors for their kid's education...is no conservative...at least not a financial one. ;)

Everyone should be afraid of ancestry.com - conservative or liberal, that site will come back to haunt us. Imagine if there were complete ancestry books only 80 years ago. So you gotta watch your back a little, maybe not today, but tomorrow. Remember, it is not unthinkable, though undesirable, that you could be living in a Muslim state by the end of your life, answering for all your previous christian or other views...wishing there was not so much rape in prison.

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08 Dec 2011 05:29 #6 by LadyJazzer
Ah, yes, the post that was exposed as being a total fabrication... I remember that post.

One of my favorite music stores in Denver recently closed after being in business for 21 years. He shot me an email right before he announced it to tell me if there was anything at his store that I wanted, NOW was the time. I did, in fact, pick up a best-of-the-line guitar that will ultimately be a collector's item, and probably be worth about 10 times what I paid for it...(which was about half of what it was worth at the time, because of our friendship.)

When I got there, he told me to come in through the back door, since they weren't officially "open" any more. But what struck me is that he had two signs in the windows...A HUGE one in the front window, and a smaller one on the back door. The back door said:

"Another small business down the tubes. Thank you Republicans for your 'jobs' program."

The big one on the front window was a bit more specific:

"OUT OF BUSINESS

We weren't overtaxed....We weren't over-regulated.

The only "uncertainty" has been having enough customers who are still employed with money to spend.

Thanks Republicans for your 'jobs' program. There are now 12 people out of work."


He is really p*ssed....And obviously not at the Democrats... I was glad to see someone finally spell it out on their window...It's a shame I acquired such a beautiful instrument because one political party is willing to keep millions out of work in order to put one president out of work.

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08 Dec 2011 05:46 #7 by RenegadeCJ

LadyJazzer wrote: Ah, yes, the post that was exposed as being a total fabrication... I remember that post.

One of my favorite music stores in Denver recently closed after being in business for 21 years. He shot me an email right before he announced it to tell me if there was anything at his store that I wanted, NOW was the time. I did, in fact, pick up a best-of-the-line guitar that will ultimately be a collector's item, and probably be worth about 10 times what I paid for it...(which was about half of what it was worth at the time, because of our friendship.)

When I got there, he told me to come in through the back door, since they weren't officially "open" any more. But what struck me is that he had two signs in the windows...A HUGE one in the front window, and a smaller one on the back door. The back door said:

"Another small business down the tubes. Thank you Republicans for your 'jobs' program."

The big one on the front window was a bit more specific:

"OUT OF BUSINESS

We weren't overtaxed....We weren't over-regulated.

The only "uncertainty" has been having enough customers who are still employed with money to spend.

Thanks Republicans for your 'jobs' program. There are now 12 people out of work."


He is really p*ssed....And obviously not at the Democrats... I was glad to see someone finally spell it out on their window...It's a shame I acquired such a beautiful instrument because one political party is willing to keep millions out of work in order to put one president out of work.


Please elaborate what in Obama's most recent "stimulus" (aka "Jobs Bill") would have provided any jobs. It was just borrowing more $$ from China to delay the inevitable. We can't spend more than we make.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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08 Dec 2011 05:49 #8 by znovkovic
Really LJ? As a musician I have been purchasing items online whether music sheets or finding free downloads. How about them CD's, oh wait we now have online downloads, ITunes store and list of other venues, including the Xbox to learn how to play an instrument. I used to have a Tascam four track recorder (casette) and Denon turntable (albums) and now I have gone digital. So now my money supports other forms of business. Give me a break!

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08 Dec 2011 06:05 #9 by LadyJazzer
Since the music store in question does not sell media (CD's, etc.) but sells musical instruments, I thank you for your enlightening, but irrelevant, comparison.

Remind me again of how many jobs-bills Boehner's House has passed?... Abortion bills, renaming post offices, trying to repeal health care, ... Funny, I don't remember any jobs bills...And every jobs bill that was proposed by Obama and the Dems, was killed. Yeah, I'm impressed. Hey, Boehner, where are the jobs?

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08 Dec 2011 06:10 #10 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: Ah, yes, the post that was exposed as being a total fabrication... I remember that post.

One of my favorite music stores in Denver recently closed after being in business for 21 years. He shot me an email right before he announced it to tell me if there was anything at his store that I wanted, NOW was the time. I did, in fact, pick up a best-of-the-line guitar that will ultimately be a collector's item, and probably be worth about 10 times what I paid for it...(which was about half of what it was worth at the time, because of our friendship.)

[snip]


You mean this music business?

Gibson Guitar CEO: We're Under Attack By Obama Administration - CEO says Obama Justice Dept. Wants Them to Close Their Doors.

Henry Juszkiewicz, the CEO of Gibson Guitars, Inc. was on The Dana Loesch Show on Friday. Gibson is under attack by the the Obama Justice Department for accusations that the company broke American Indian laws.

Juszkiewiz said the government suggested that the company's use of unfinished wood from India is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because of the Justice Department's interpretation of a law in India. The Holder Justice Department raided at least two Gibson manufacturing plants this week forcing hundreds of workers off their jobs. Juszkiewiz says the company lost a million dollars this week.

Finally, Henry Juszkiewicz told Dana, "The Obama Justice Department wants us to just shut our doors and go away." He says he will continue to fight for the Gibson company and its workers.

Juszkiewicz held a press conference yesterday in front of the Gibson headquarters.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45796


Yea... I remember that music business that the Obama administration tried to shut down... I didn't know you knew the owner?

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