Conservatives: Out & Proud?

znovkovic wrote: LJ, If all he was selling was musical instruments than it is no wonder he went out of business. You being a musician and a.k.a friend you should have told him he wasn't doing enough....

Funny, but he managed to stay in business for 22 years without your expertise on his business model.

LadyJazzer wrote:

znovkovic wrote: LJ, If all he was selling was musical instruments than it is no wonder he went out of business. You being a musician and a.k.a friend you should have told him he wasn't doing enough....

Funny, but he managed to stay in business for 22 years without your expertise on his business model.

Or evidently yours.

znovkovic wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Ah, yes, the post that was exposed as being a total fabrication... I remember that post.

One of my favorite music stores in Denver recently closed after being in business for 21 years. He shot me an email right before he announced it to tell me if there was anything at his store that I wanted, NOW was the time. I did, in fact, pick up a best-of-the-line guitar that will ultimately be a collector's item, and probably be worth about 10 times what I paid for it...(which was about half of what it was worth at the time, because of our friendship.)

[snip]

You mean this music business?

Gibson Guitar CEO: We're Under Attack By Obama Administration - CEO says Obama Justice Dept. Wants Them to Close Their Doors.

Henry Juszkiewicz, the CEO of Gibson Guitars, Inc. was on The Dana Loesch Show on Friday. Gibson is under attack by the the Obama Justice Department for accusations that the company broke American Indian laws.

Juszkiewiz said the government suggested that the company's use of unfinished wood from India is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because of the Justice Department's interpretation of a law in India. The Holder Justice Department raided at least two Gibson manufacturing plants this week forcing hundreds of workers off their jobs. Juszkiewiz says the company lost a million dollars this week.

Finally, Henry Juszkiewicz told Dana, "The Obama Justice Department wants us to just shut our doors and go away." He says he will continue to fight for the Gibson company and its workers.

Juszkiewicz held a press conference yesterday in front of the Gibson headquarters.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45796

Yea... I remember that music business that the Obama administration tried to shut down... I didn't know you knew the owner?

I used to own a Les Paul Artist and made some money selling it about 10 years ago. It was one of a kind that had a battery integrated into the body that gave me addtional sound effects! One of my first loves!!! Your post allowed me to reminisce and almost brought a tear to my eye, but then remember all the other cool stuff I purchased with that sale.

No, actually NOT that business... He wasn't a Gibson distributor... But thanks for playing... (And it wasn't Obama that tried to shut them down...)

LadyJazzer wrote:

znovkovic wrote: LJ, If all he was selling was musical instruments than it is no wonder he went out of business. You being a musician and a.k.a friend you should have told him he wasn't doing enough....

Funny, but he managed to stay in business for 22 years without your expertise on his business model.

And no one makes a living off of selling buggy whips anymore. Internet direct selling has put a lot of book stores and music stores out of business. Those with enough foresight went to a combined internet/brick and motor business model... the rest have failed or failing. Didn't you see this coming, you could have advised your friend to change his business model. What are you some old Luddite?

LadyJazzer wrote:

znovkovic wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: Ah, yes, the post that was exposed as being a total fabrication... I remember that post.

One of my favorite music stores in Denver recently closed after being in business for 21 years. He shot me an email right before he announced it to tell me if there was anything at his store that I wanted, NOW was the time. I did, in fact, pick up a best-of-the-line guitar that will ultimately be a collector's item, and probably be worth about 10 times what I paid for it...(which was about half of what it was worth at the time, because of our friendship.)

[snip]

You mean this music business?

Gibson Guitar CEO: We're Under Attack By Obama Administration - CEO says Obama Justice Dept. Wants Them to Close Their Doors.

Henry Juszkiewicz, the CEO of Gibson Guitars, Inc. was on The Dana Loesch Show on Friday. Gibson is under attack by the the Obama Justice Department for accusations that the company broke American Indian laws.

Juszkiewiz said the government suggested that the company's use of unfinished wood from India is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because of the Justice Department's interpretation of a law in India. The Holder Justice Department raided at least two Gibson manufacturing plants this week forcing hundreds of workers off their jobs. Juszkiewiz says the company lost a million dollars this week.

Finally, Henry Juszkiewicz told Dana, "The Obama Justice Department wants us to just shut our doors and go away." He says he will continue to fight for the Gibson company and its workers.

Juszkiewicz held a press conference yesterday in front of the Gibson headquarters.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45796

Yea... I remember that music business that the Obama administration tried to shut down... I didn't know you knew the owner?

I used to own a Les Paul Artist and made some money selling it about 10 years ago. It was one of a kind that had a battery integrated into the body that gave me addtional sound effects! One of my first loves!!! Your post allowed me to reminisce and almost brought a tear to my eye, but then remember all the other cool stuff I purchased with that sale.

No, actually NOT that business... He wasn't a Gibson distributor... But thanks for playing... (And it wasn't Obama that tried to shut them down...)

Who does our Justice Department answer too? Thanks for being so stupid.

This thread is cracking me up. So many of you smile and nod, if not cheer, when you get some BS forwarded email claiming that a Republican business owner told his employees he was closing down and it was all Obama's fault. Yet you find it the fault of the business owner when he shuts down and attributes it more to Republican policies?

Some of you have your heads so far up your butts it's no wonder you can't see stuff that is right in front of you.

AspenValley wrote: This thread is cracking me up. So many of you smile and nod, if not cheer, when you get some BS forwarded email claiming that a Republican business owner told his employees he was closing down and it was all Obama's fault. Yet you find it the fault of the business owner when he shuts down and attributes it more to Republican policies?

Some of you have your heads so far up your butts it's no wonder you can't see stuff that is right in front of you.

rofllol :rofl rofllol

Yeah, and you're a shining example of open mindedness and bi-partisan thoughts.

While the store was not a distributor of Gibson Guitars, some of you love to attribute this to Obama over and over again, (and as usual, repeating something that's a lie over and over again does NOT make it true)... Here is the backstory on the Gibson raids:

Gibson Guitar becomes cause celebre for conservatives

Federal agents were targeting wood that may have been illegally imported under the Lacey Act. First passed in 1900 to curtail contraband trade in wildlife, the act was amended in 2008, with broad bipartisan and Bush administration support, to ban illegally logged wood products.

The act defines illegal logging as activity that breaks American law or the laws of the country where the wood is grown. In Gibson's case, the government asserts that the company repeatedly imported rosewood and ebony from India that, under Indian law, cannot be exported in its unfinished, sawn state. The pieces in question are wooden slats about 20 inches long, 3 inches wide and close to half an inch thick.

Gibson said that it had imported fingerboards — the smooth wood glued to the front of the guitar's neck to form the frets — from India for years without problems. The guitar builder said such wood fits with the company's tradition of using high-quality materials.

Juszkiewicz produced a September letter from the Indian government that permits the export of fingerboards. Industry and environmental experts contend that the seized wood had not been made into fingerboards and was still unfinished, making its export a violation of Indian law .

A group of environmentalists, some in the domestic forest industry, even a few guitar companies, are pushing back against the recent politicization of the Lacey Act. In a recent blog post, Bob Taylor, president of Taylor Guitars, wrote: "The cost isn't so much for us. It's not an unbearable added burden."

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/27 ... r-20110928


Oh, the outrage...Oh, the horror... A violation of an INDIAN export law, (signed by Bush in 2008), led to a raid. And even the guitar manufacturers say: "The cost isn't so much for us. It's not an unbearable added burden." If the fingerboards had been finished in India, (probably using Indian labor), there would have been no violation.

Hey, Righties, you're drinking the Kool-Aid again.... :Koolaid:

Nobody that matters wrote:

AspenValley wrote: This thread is cracking me up. So many of you smile and nod, if not cheer, when you get some BS forwarded email claiming that a Republican business owner told his employees he was closing down and it was all Obama's fault. Yet you find it the fault of the business owner when he shuts down and attributes it more to Republican policies?

Some of you have your heads so far up your butts it's no wonder you can't see stuff that is right in front of you.

rofllol :rofl rofllol

Yeah, and you're a shining example of open mindedness and bi-partisan thoughts.

You might find I was much more so than it appears from the place you're looking from. It's pretty dark there, I imagine.

LadyJazzer wrote: Ah, yes, the post that was exposed as being a total fabrication... I remember that post.

One of my favorite music stores in Denver recently closed after being in business for 21 years. He shot me an email right before he announced it to tell me if there was anything at his store that I wanted, NOW was the time. I did, in fact, pick up a best-of-the-line guitar that will ultimately be a collector's item, and probably be worth about 10 times what I paid for it...(which was about half of what it was worth at the time, because of our friendship.)

When I got there, he told me to come in through the back door, since they weren't officially "open" any more. But what struck me is that he had two signs in the windows...A HUGE one in the front window, and a smaller one on the back door. The back door said:

"Another small business down the tubes. Thank you Republicans for your 'jobs' program."

The big one on the front window was a bit more specific:

"OUT OF BUSINESS

We weren't overtaxed....We weren't over-regulated.

The only "uncertainty" has been having enough customers who are still employed with money to spend.

Thanks Republicans for your 'jobs' program. There are now 12 people out of work."

He is really p*ssed....And obviously not at the Democrats... I was glad to see someone finally spell it out on their window...It's a shame I acquired such a beautiful instrument because one political party is willing to keep millions out of work in order to put one president out of work.

Imagine a time, maybe only 50 years ago, when businesses rose and fell on their own merits, rather than being dependent on the goverment for stimulus or as a customer. It used to be 70% of the economy was consumer driven, when will we reach 70% goverment driven.

And sometimes businesses still fail because of the economic cycle of peaks and valleys.

But back on topic, I do stay quiet about politics with my outside suppliers, but am amazed at how many of the salesman I talk to volunteer their political beliefs. You would think they wouldn't want to piss off a potential customer.