Obamacare Violates The Separation Of Church & State?

Everyone has the right to have sex. No one has the right to force it upon anyone. They are two different things.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

neptunechimney wrote: I think you guys talk past each other on purpose. An adult couple has the right to have sex. A single person does not.

No one has the right to have sex. Do one can demand sex from anyone else, just because they think they have some right to it. I don't care if they are a couple, a threesome or an orgy. If the other person refuses your advances, you have no right to demand sex.

L O L, and where praytell did I say otherwise. Reading comprehension problems or just hitting the bottle? :thedrink:

neptunechimney wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

neptunechimney wrote: I think you guys talk past each other on purpose. An adult couple has the right to have sex. A single person does not.

No one has the right to have sex. Do one can demand sex from anyone else, just because they think they have some right to it. I don't care if they are a couple, a threesome or an orgy. If the other person refuses your advances, you have no right to demand sex.

L O L, and where praytell did I say otherwise. Reading comprehension problems or just hitting the bottle? :thedrink:

I don't drink a bit, a touch or a taste.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

neptunechimney wrote: I think you guys talk past each other on purpose. An adult couple has the right to have sex. A single person does not.

No one has the right to have sex. Do one can demand sex from anyone else, just because they think they have some right to it. I don't care if they are a couple, a threesome or an orgy. If the other person refuses your advances, you have no right to demand sex.

L O L, and where pray tell did I say otherwise. Reading comprehension problems or just hitting the bottle? :thedrink:

I don't drink a bit, a touch or a taste.

AH HAH. Then you admit that you are a wasted sperm lost in a peice of seminal spunk who's fluid is drying out under the tail of a goat with zero ability to understand what you read. Got it.

Just kidding archer.

neptunechimney wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

neptunechimney wrote: I think you guys talk past each other on purpose. An adult couple has the right to have sex. A single person does not.

No one has the right to have sex. Do one can demand sex from anyone else, just because they think they have some right to it. I don't care if they are a couple, a threesome or an orgy. If the other person refuses your advances, you have no right to demand sex.

L O L, and where pray tell did I say otherwise. Reading comprehension problems or just hitting the bottle? :thedrink:

I don't drink a bit, a touch or a taste.

AH HAH. Then you admit that you are a wasted sperm lost in a peice of seminal spunk who's fluid is drying out under the tail of a goat with zero ability to understand what you read. Got it.

Just kidding archer.

I'm not Archer. But thanks for the slam. I'll remember that.

archer wrote: Just as any other company must. Without taking sides on whether or not providing contraception without co pays is a good idea (free is a misnomer), I don't believe the Catholic church should get special treatment as a business. As a church, yes, and they do. But not as a business.

Artificial contraception is a choice, not a necessity. One elects to engage in copulative activities as well, it is not a necessity either. Please explain to me why I, as a Catholic, must pay for cost of unnecessary and elective medical choices for others that are contrary to the tenants of my faith? Am I not, according to the laws of that faith, committing the same sin by providing something forbidden by my faith to someone else as I would be if I provided it for myself? Our secular laws in other areas certainly bear that out, so why is it in any way different for religious laws?

If I provide a gun to someone knowing that they intend to use it to harm someone else, I am just as guilty of the crime that results as they are. If I drive someone to a location knowing they intend to rob the establishment, I am just as guilty of that robbery as they are. If I am even in the presence of someone when they commit a crime and do nothing to stop it, or do not report it, I can be held responsible by the law for my inaction. Artificial contraception is a religious crime - a mortal sin - according to the laws of the Catholic Church. You don't have to agree with it, you don't have to live your life by the same laws, but our Constitution tells you that you must allow for the free exercise of that faith, that it must be accommodated for in the secular law. Our government may not compel me to violate the laws of my faith any more than it can compel me to violate its own laws. Compelling me, a Catholic, as the owner of a business, to provide contraceptive services at my expense to someone else is not in any way different than requiring me to assist someone else in breaking the secular laws of the society in which I live. If I purchase contraception for someone else I have violated the same law as if I had purchased it for myself. The government doesn't have the right to compel me to violate the laws of my faith archer - it really is just that simple. It can no more compel me to participate in purchasing contraception, whether I am the owner of a business or not, than it can compel a Muslim to own a dog, or to eat pork, or prevent a Jew from having their male children circumcised by a Mohel instead of a doctor, or prevent them from observing Kosher when an animal is killed for food. These are religious laws that, at least in this government, must be accommodated by the secular laws of the society.

Artificial contraception is a violation of the laws of my faith and my government doesn't have the right to compel me to break those laws by participating in the funding of the individual elective reproductive choices which violate those laws. It may not compel me to purchase insurance which provides for full payment of those elective choices either for myself or for anyone else. It is a voluntary choice one makes to use contraception, it is not a necessity. It is a want, not a need.

"Artificial contraception is a violation of the laws of my faith"

Then put a Bayer aspirin between your knees....

It is in no way surprising to anyone that you have only bigotry to offer in response LJ.

If christians are against actions that are a violation of the laws of their faith, then why do they support war? Thou shall not kill is in their original founding document. Why do they pay taxes that support the military, guns, and nuclear weapons?

If his government doesn't have the right to compel him to break those laws by participating in the funding of whatever he doesn't believe in, then they have no right to compel me to pay for school vouchers for religious schools; to build bombs and delivery systems to kill other human beings, etc.

Get your friggin' Church out of my State... You don't want contraception? Don't get it.