Colorado student quits high school choir over Islamic song

CritiKalbILL wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: I would, and I have... It's just a song, and means nothing to me other than a melody with words... I sing Christmas carols tool... Get over it.

The more important question is, would you support a kid who didn't want to sing a Christian song because he was an Athiest? Should we require kids to sing religious songs if it goes against what they believe? Your past posts would suggest that you believe in freedom FROM religion.

I don't care about "supporting" some kid who wants to be a bigot. What part of that don't you understand? You always want to extrapolate your bullsh*t to the most outrageous hypothetical extremes... I'm not interested in your "What if....'s" The kids a budding bigot, and should fit into the TeaParty very well...I'm sure he'll find a lot of company.

"Freedom FROM religion" means you don't get to cram something down my throat. If I CHOOSE to sing a song, or read a book, or believe something, it better be MY choice...not some superstitious group's....

CritiKalbILL wrote: And if I recall correctly, you also support the removal of nativity scenes and the ten commandments from public places...they are just words and visual images...right?

Yep... They don't belong on public property... There are plenty of church grounds and private property to display them on. And besides, they are unconstitutional on public property.

Let me get this straight....an atheist student who claims he shouldn't have to say the words "under God" in school gets vilified by conservatives but a student who wont sing a song in choir naming a muslim god is praised. And no conservative here sees the hypocracy in this?

To my mind - sincere faith would politely and privately request an excused absence from the tune in question.

Then - there's public faith --- which is more about showmanship than faith --- which calls the newspaper.

You know - I'll bet the character Joseph in the Bible - likely helped the Egyptians build some religious temples. He didn't stomp his feet, pound his chest and scream, "you're not my religion." I doubt he called Haaretz or the J. Post with an expose on Pharaoh's religion. Egypt (and Israel) were saved because he used his talents and wisdom, and prescribed food storage.

I think this kid could learn something from Joseph.

Maimonides had this figured out.

Sing the song --- sing it well ---- and worship your god on your own time.

LadyJazzer wrote:

CritiKalbILL wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: I would, and I have... It's just a song, and means nothing to me other than a melody with words... I sing Christmas carols tool... Get over it.

The more important question is, would you support a kid who didn't want to sing a Christian song because he was an Athiest? Should we require kids to sing religious songs if it goes against what they believe? Your past posts would suggest that you believe in freedom FROM religion.

I don't care about "supporting" some kid who wants to be a bigot. What part of that don't you understand? You always want to extrapolate your bullsh*t to the most outrageous hypothetical extremes... I'm not interested in your "What if....'s" The kids a budding bigot, and should fit into the TeaParty very well...I'm sure he'll find a lot of company.

"Freedom FROM religion" means you don't get to cram something down my throat. If I CHOOSE to sing a song, or read a book, or believe something, it better be MY choice...not some superstitious group's....

And if he chooses NOT TO SING A SONG, that's his choice, and it doesn't make him a bigot... it's HIS CHOICE. What part of what you just said don't you understand?

as far as I'm concerned - the student has a choice, and is free to make that choice.

I think it's silly and disingenuous to make a faith-based choice --- and then shout it from a mountain-top
(that's not faith - it's self-righteousness).

Moreover, were I that student, I'd choose to sing the song - and would do so well enough to win a Grammy.

archer wrote: Let me get this straight....an atheist student who claims he shouldn't have to say the words "under God" in school gets vilified by conservatives but a student who wont sing a song in choir naming a muslim god is praised. And no conservative here sees the hypocracy in this?

Let me get this straight.... Progressives who vilify and fight against any reference to Halloween, Christmas, Valentine’s Day, or the Ten Commandments, in school think it’s fine for a Muslim prayer to be sung in a public school? And no progressives, here sees the hypocrisy in this?

FYI the word is hyporcrisy not hypocracy.

bailey bud wrote: as far as I'm concerned - the student has a choice, and is free to make that choice.

I think it's silly and disingenuous to make a faith-based choice --- and then shout it from a mountain-top
(that's not faith - it's self-righteousness).

Moreover, were I that student, I'd choose to sing the song - and would do so well enough to win a Grammy.

That's his freedom of speech... silly or not... whether you like it or not. I'm glad to see him take that choice and not be cowered by the Politically Correct Bigots like we've seen on this thread.

Grady wrote:
Let me get this straight.... Progressives who vilify and fight against any reference to Halloween, Christmas, Valentine’s Day, or the Ten Commandments, in school think it’s fine for a Muslim prayer to be sung in a public school? And no progressives, here sees the hypocrisy in this?

Ok.....so what ever a progressive does you can do better? or worse? I do so love the "you do it too" defense of bad behavior. Who knew conservatives looked to liberals to set their behavior standards.

Grady wrote:
FYI the word is hyporcrisy not hypocracy.

sorry about that, I am not so good at the cell phone typing, but if you are going to correct someone's spelling it would be more effective if you spelled it correctly yourself. It's hypocrisy, not hyporcrisy.