Colorado student quits high school choir over Islamic song

17 Feb 2012 15:24 #51 by LadyJazzer
Good... If people need to pray, and interject their religion into things, there is a perfect venue...It's called a "church."

While I get your usual hysteria, what does that have to do with singing a song? (My god, what if they had added "Hava Nagila" to the program?)

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17 Feb 2012 15:26 #52 by FredHayek

navycpo7 wrote: I fail to see the problem here.

Lets see they banned prayer from school, no problem there, kids can't wear a flag on their shirt to school of fear of upsetting someone, kids can't ride their bike with an American flag on it of fear it might upset someone, A court decided that prayer is not allowed at graduation as part of the program because one family did not like it. That is the short list.

So because the young man who believes it is wrong, which by all aspects of the rest it is, goes to the media to promote his cause. What is the damn difference to the rest of the stuff that has happened. NOTHING

Personally it should not be allowed in the choir of a public school. If prayer is not allowed then why is a religious song.


Good point. It does seem that Islam gets special status sometimes in America. South Park, the TV show has fun at the expense of other religions, but they learned pretty darn quick that they weren't allowed to do anything to offend people who practice Islam.

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17 Feb 2012 15:28 #53 by archer
Personally I don't have a problem with what this kid did....nor do I have a problem with a kid who objects to "under God" in the pledge....it's all free speech, or an expression there-of. I do have a problem if you condemn one, and approve of the other.

Don't advocate for Christian prayer in the schools if you are going to condemn an Islamic song by the choir.

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17 Feb 2012 15:33 #54 by Soulshiner
Openly religious songs are a huge part of every high school choir's song list. They always have been. The songs everyone in choirs sing are christian. He's not complaining that he is being asked to sing a religious song, he's complaining that he has been asked to sing an Islamic one. I'd bet money that he's sang many christian songs and didn't let out a peep. You know, because "I don’t want to come across as a bigot or a racist, but..." His parents did a fine job raising a bigot/racist who whines to the media instead of handling it like an adult. Better make sure the kid is going to attend a christian college so he won't be exposed to the evils of the world.

And South Park, really? Those guys did try to show a depiction of Allah, but Comedy Central censored it.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/comedy ... outh_park/

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17 Feb 2012 15:34 #55 by PrintSmith
So if one applauds the ruling that a prayer banner must be removed from a high school in the one instance and applauds the singing of a religious song in another then you have a problem with that. Do I understand you correctly archer?

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17 Feb 2012 15:41 #56 by archer

PrintSmith wrote: So if one applauds the ruling that a prayer banner must be removed from a high school in the one instance and applauds the singing of a religious song in another then you have a problem with that. Do I understand you correctly archer?


I'm not sure you understand at all PS......let me try this again.......I don't believe religion belongs in the schools....but if you are going to have it, then let in ALL religions, no matter how distasteful to you. If, however, you are going to ban one, ban them all. I think I have been pretty consistent on that.

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17 Feb 2012 15:53 #57 by Soulshiner
Christian songs have gotten a pass in the religion is schools debate, but maybe now because of this kid, they will get the same attention as prayer. He has his desire for attention filled in full now and he may not like it.

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17 Feb 2012 16:05 #58 by PrintSmith
So we should either allow the singing of Muslim prayers, and Gregorian Chants, and the hanging of prayer banners left as a gift for future students by the first graduating class from that high school - or we should allow none of it under any circumstances, right? To voice support that a Muslim prayer be sung in choir and at the same time support the removal of a prayer banner is as hypocritical as supporting the continued display of the banner and opposing the singing of a Muslim prayer in choir in your mind, correct? Either both should be allowed, or both removed entirely from the schools in your opinion, correct?

If this is consistent with what you are saying, then I would find myself in 100% agreement with you on this.

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17 Feb 2012 16:11 #59 by archer
What's your problem PS? I think I made my position crystal clear. I'm happy you agree with me.

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17 Feb 2012 16:12 #60 by Reverend Revelant

Soulshiner wrote: Christian songs have gotten a pass in the religion is schools debate, but maybe now because of this kid, they will get the same attention as prayer. He has his desire for attention filled in full now and he may not like it.


I will. I'm all for no religious prayer, song or celebration in schools at all.

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