Obama Blocks Texas Voter ID Law

12 Mar 2012 15:10 #11 by Something the Dog Said

BearMtnHIB wrote: We also have a voter fraud problem here in Colorado- Here is the article I have posted about this in other threads.....

http://drscoundrels.com/2011/03/15/voter-fraud-in-colorado-november-elections-house-committee-to-investigate/

And there IS a law that requires every voter to be in the state lawfully- I'm sure Texas has a similar law. How are state officials supposed to enforce these laws if not by ID at the voter ballot?

These liberals are really quite stupid- and they assume the rest of us are as stupid as they are!


Gessler has been spouting off about voter fraud, starting out that there were tens of thousands illegal voters, then down to hundreds, now he has only found a single instance, which was where a voter with property in Colorado and Kansas voted in both states (which a photo ID would not have made a single bit of difference). Tell me this, why has he not referred a single instance of voter fraud for prosecution? Hmm?

The Supreme Court has ruled that states may not impose burdens on the right to vote. The DOJ rightly found that imposing the requirement for a state issued photo ID would be such a burden.

So how does it work with with mail in votes, you have to send in a picture of yourself along with the photo ID?

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12 Mar 2012 15:27 - 12 Mar 2012 15:30 #12 by BearMtnHIB
They have indeed found voter fraud in Colorado- by the thousands. So much so that the republican congress passed a very similar voter ID law here in Colorado- but it failed in the Democratic senate.

Colorado is currently one of 16 states that require IDs but not photo IDs at polling places.

And requiring an ID to vote is NOT a burden to voters- but not requiring an ID is a violation of state voting laws- and it makes a joke of our voting system.

Just try voting in Mexico without an ID.

It's back on the table again....
http://www.coloradodaily.com/out-there/ci_20018463#axzz1owLzlkOL

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12 Mar 2012 15:30 #13 by FredHayek
The liberal side on this issue just baffles me. If I am a teenager trying to buy beer, does the ID requirement make sense? And isn't voting much more important than alcohol? Should I not be required to show ID before buying a gun, requiring photo ID before I buy a revolver intimidates me, right?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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12 Mar 2012 18:04 #14 by Arlen
The Supreme Court has ruled 5 or 6 years ago that law enforcement cannot require ID from anyone unless the officer is actively investigating a crime. They cannot ask for ID just for the hell of it.

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12 Mar 2012 18:17 #15 by Arlen
Also:
In Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47 (1979), the Court struck down Texas’s stop-and-identify law as violating the Fourth Amendment because it allowed police officers to stop individuals without “specific, objective facts establishing reasonable suspicion to believe the suspect was involved in criminal activity.”

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12 Mar 2012 18:22 #16 by FredHayek
It would be real interesting to see if it was the GOP bringing in illegal voters if the Left Here would be demanding photo id's. History lesson, in the 1950's, it was the southern Dem's who were restricting the black vote.

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12 Mar 2012 18:29 #17 by Arlen
The officer must have a resonable suspicion that the person may be involved in an active investigation.
So, before the liberals get their shorts in a knot:

HIIBEL v. SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF
NEVADA, HUMBOLDT COUNTY, et al.
Beginning with Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1, the Court has recognized that an officer’s reasonable suspicion that a person may be involved in criminal activity permits the officer to stop the person for a brief time and take additional steps to investigate further.

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12 Mar 2012 18:39 #18 by Arlen
Asking for ID for proof of voting eligibility is not connected to law enforcement agencies. It does not descriminate against any U.S. citizen. No one is denied their constitutional rights by producing indentification. No one is jailed for failure to produce ID.

Registering to vote does not deny any citizen their voting rights. But is it required to document that residency requirements are met and guard against voting multiple times.

Without proof of citizenship, there will be mischief afoot.

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12 Mar 2012 18:42 #19 by Rick
Why even require anyone who votes to be over 18 if there is no requirement to prove it?

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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12 Mar 2012 18:47 #20 by Something the Dog Said

BearMtnHIB wrote: They have indeed found voter fraud in Colorado- by the thousands. So much so that the republican congress passed a very similar voter ID law here in Colorado- but it failed in the Democratic senate.

Colorado is currently one of 16 states that require IDs but not photo IDs at polling places.

And requiring an ID to vote is NOT a burden to voters- but not requiring an ID is a violation of state voting laws- and it makes a joke of our voting system.

Just try voting in Mexico without an ID.

It's back on the table again....
http://www.coloradodaily.com/out-there/ci_20018463#axzz1owLzlkOL

Please provide a source for your lie that there has been thousands of instances of voter fraud in Colorado. It seems that only you and Gessler have any "evidence" of it. Why have there been no instances of prosecutions, this is a very serious crime? Because there have not been any instance, other than the single case that I cited. Further, it is yet another lie that not requiring an ID is a violation of state voting laws. Can you tell the truth about anything?

I have no intention to try to vote in Mexico, why would I? Why is that even relevant to voting in Colorado?

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