Obama Blocks Texas Voter ID Law

13 Mar 2012 11:44 #51 by BearMtnHIB

My mother, who at age 90 has not driven in over ten years, no longer has a valid DL. It will cost her several hundred dollars to obtain a new photo ID, as it is difficult to get a copy of the required birth certificate due to record keeping chaos back in the 1920s.


A state ID card costs $10.50 - and is FREE to everyone over 60. It is quite possible that they would accept her expired drivers license as proof of identity.

To apply, visit your local driver's license office with:

Proof of identity.
Proof of your full legal name.
Proof of age.
Proof of Colorado residency.
(This may include a utility bill, a pay stub, a credit card statement, a bank statement, a tax document, a phone bill, a rent receipt, a mortgage document, a homeowner or renter's insurance policy, or your vehicle registration.)
Proof of legal presence.
Payment to cover $10.50 fee (free if you're older than 60).

Importance of ID Cards-
Applying for a state ID card is a similar to the process of getting a driver license, minus all of the actual testing. The card is a great idea for those with no intent to drive in the state of Colorado or to obtain a driver license, and who do not own any other type of significant photo ID.

It is vital to have some form of legal photo document on your person almost all the time, and in case you run into an emergency it will make notifying relatives that much easier. Besides, you will quickly realize the limitations of not having some sort of photo identification: trouble boarding aircraft, writing checks, buying alcohol or hitting the clubs, or using a credit card. Plus, the ID is an affordable alternative to a driver license.


Source;
http://www.dmv.org/co-colorado/id-cards.php

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13 Mar 2012 11:58 #52 by FredHayek

Something the Dog Said wrote: Typical conservative BS. No one has claimed that there are million of voters without photo IDs. However even a small number of legal voters without photo IDs should not lose their right to vote based on fictitious claims by conservatives. My mother, who at age 90 has not driven in over ten years, no longer has a valid DL. It will cost her several hundred dollars to obtain a new photo ID, as it is difficult to get a copy of the required birth certificate due to record keeping chaos back in the 1920s. Should she be denied the right to vote based on some nonexistent problem?


Several hundred dollars? More hyperbole?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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13 Mar 2012 11:59 #53 by FredHayek

FredHayek wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: Typical conservative BS. No one has claimed that there are million of voters without photo IDs. However even a small number of legal voters without photo IDs should not lose their right to vote based on fictitious claims by conservatives. My mother, who at age 90 has not driven in over ten years, no longer has a valid DL. It will cost her several hundred dollars to obtain a new photo ID, as it is difficult to get a copy of the required birth certificate due to record keeping chaos back in the 1920s. Should she be denied the right to vote based on some nonexistent problem?


Several hundred dollars? More hyperbole?


Using an expired driver's license, it cost me $2.50 to get a Nebraska state ID.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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13 Mar 2012 12:49 #54 by LadyJazzer
We're not talking about Colorado law are we.....

Here's an excellent example of why laws like this should get tossed out:

96-year-old Chattanooga resident denied voting ID

Dorothy Cooper is 96 but she can remember only one election when she's been eligible to vote but hasn't.

The retired domestic worker was born in a small North Georgia town before women had the right to vote. She began casting ballots in her 20s after moving to Chattanooga for work. She missed voting for John F. Kennedy in 1960 because a move to Nashville prevented her from registering in time.

So when she learned last month at a community meeting that under a new state law she'd need a photo ID to vote next year, she talked with a volunteer about how to get to a state Driver Service Center to get her free ID. But when she got there Monday with an envelope full of documents, a clerk denied her request.

That morning, Cooper slipped a rent receipt, a copy of her lease, her voter registration card and her birth certificate into a Manila envelope. Typewritten on the birth certificate was her maiden name, Dorothy Alexander.

"But I didn't have my marriage certificate," Cooper said Tuesday afternoon, and that was the reason the clerk said she was denied a free voter ID at the Cherokee Boulevard Driver Service Center.


http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct ... rat-tells/

And those are the kinds of people these voter-suppression laws are aimed at.

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13 Mar 2012 13:11 #55 by BearMtnHIB
Why did she leave out her marriage certificate?

Did she forget that she got married and that her name had changed?

And so what- go back with the marriage certificate and get the damn ID.

If I gave up after each time a government employee thew a roadblock in my face I'd never get anything done. As an engineer- I deal with that crap everyday!

What a sorry ass excuse for not getting an ID- Like I said- too lazy to get an ID- but not too lazy to vote for Obama.

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13 Mar 2012 13:26 #56 by LadyJazzer
Perhaps you can point out to us where in the article it said anything about her voting for Obama? I don't remember seeing that?

And perhaps if you'd read the article your question about the Marriage License would have been answered... Yeah, at 96 she should be "just like you." (God, I hope not....One would like to think evolution has moved on a little further...)

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13 Mar 2012 13:27 #57 by FredHayek

LadyJazzer wrote: We're not talking about Colorado law are we.....

Here's an excellent example of why laws like this should get tossed out:

96-year-old Chattanooga resident denied voting ID

Dorothy Cooper is 96 but she can remember only one election when she's been eligible to vote but hasn't.

The retired domestic worker was born in a small North Georgia town before women had the right to vote. She began casting ballots in her 20s after moving to Chattanooga for work. She missed voting for John F. Kennedy in 1960 because a move to Nashville prevented her from registering in time.

So when she learned last month at a community meeting that under a new state law she'd need a photo ID to vote next year, she talked with a volunteer about how to get to a state Driver Service Center to get her free ID. But when she got there Monday with an envelope full of documents, a clerk denied her request.

That morning, Cooper slipped a rent receipt, a copy of her lease, her voter registration card and her birth certificate into a Manila envelope. Typewritten on the birth certificate was her maiden name, Dorothy Alexander.

"But I didn't have my marriage certificate," Cooper said Tuesday afternoon, and that was the reason the clerk said she was denied a free voter ID at the Cherokee Boulevard Driver Service Center.


http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct ... rat-tells/

And those are the kinds of people these voter-suppression laws are aimed at.

One anecdote does not make your case. :dislike:

And once again, this same woman should have photo ID anyway.

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13 Mar 2012 13:29 #58 by LadyJazzer
There are enough similar anecdotes that this isolated one is not needed to make the case. DoJ has decided the laws are unconstitutional, and I guess we'll watch this whole voter-suppression b.s. play out.

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13 Mar 2012 13:46 #59 by BearMtnHIB

Perhaps you can point out to us where in the article it said anything about her voting for Obama?

A republican wouldn't whine about her failure to produce simple paperwork in order to get a photo ID- A republican would already have an ID when asked for one because she would have already got the job done.

The proof that she voted for Obama? It's obivious- she's incapable of even producing a few simple documents in order to get a photo ID- there's a 99.99999% chance that she is a Democrat!

Another helpless victim.

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13 Mar 2012 13:48 #60 by LadyJazzer
So, in other words...you have no proof--just your ASSumptions and bias against this woman for being elderly.

Got it.

Consistent...What a surprise.

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