Obama Blocks Texas Voter ID Law

You've already lost 18% of your own women in your own party...

Yeah, we'll see in November how many

Women
Blacks
LGBT
Seniors
Hispanics
Students

...you guys have managed to p*ss off, won't we....

Did the Dems run too soon with the "War On Women" stories? Still more than seven months before the election. Although I see Fluke is now on tour. Doesn't she have law classes right now?

Is her schedule suddenly any of your business?

The war is just beginning... (Did you hear who the newest participant is?...Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX)... She's ever-so-politely saying that Perry is an idiot...)

Oh, I LOVE the "voting fetuses" ploy! rofllol

Can you make them cry, "Mommy! Mommy!" ?

How's that working out for ya? Getting any converts today?

LadyJazzer wrote: Since you aren't listening, (again)... The difference is between "some good form of ID" vs. the new state-mandated "forms of ACCEPTABLE ID"...

Rave on...

We are listening, we just reject irrational thinking when it is presented. I can make up "some good form of ID" for anyone that wants it, under whatever name or address they wish if I want to. That doesn't make it a "valid" ID that is "acceptable" as proof of citizenship and eligibility to vote now, does it.

plaidvillain wrote: More lies and willful ignorance from the right on this one. The issue is not simply about having ID, but about having acceptable ID, which to the bigots on the right means: ID which is current, with no errors, reflecting the citizen's current address. Republicans know lower income folks, students and elderly have a higher likelihood of moving, changing addresses, more frequently, and therefore may not have an updated ID. This gives Republicans the opportunity to limit the numbers of voters - which is their only hope of winning any nationwide election!…minimize the voice of the true majority. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with fighting voter fraud (fiction), and everything to do with fighting the demographics Reps know are more likely to vote against them. I register to vote - that's all the "proof" necessary. Additional ID requirements are onerous and redundant...completely unnecessary, but I understand why Reps feel they need more govt, more legislation, more control - because they're afraid.

Just because you don't think you're a bigot doesn't mean anything - your actions reveal the truth and hatred within you. And no, I will not be tolerant of your intolerance.

*edit* actually, I am tolerant of your intolerance. I respect your freedom to be willful idiots and to have hateful opinions of all that you fear...but I will fight your efforts to have YOUR fears control OUR society.

Nor will I allow your fears to degrade the integrity of the vote by removing the safeguards necessary to maintain that integrity. The laws that are written still allow one without a valid, acceptable, state issued ID that identifies them as a citizen of that state who is eligible to vote to cast their vote on election day with a provisional ballot. What that means is that since the alleged citizen didn't obtain what the law requires to prove that they are a citizen who is eligible to vote, their ballot will held until it is established that they are indeed a citizen who is eligible to vote before their ballot is released and counted. They are not prevented from voting, those votes are simply held separate from all the rest until such time as their claim to citizenship is verified. This is why the Supreme Court of this union issued a ruling that said these laws are not an infringement on the right to vote, that such laws are reasonable attempts of the State to properly protect the integrity of the vote and to ensure that only the votes of the citizens who are eligible to vote at that location are counted.

It is not the right that is lying regarding this issue PV - it is the left. No one is denied the ability to vote with the passage of these laws as the left is trying to inculcate the electorate into believing is the case. And you are correct, the left's actions by forwarding such lies does reveal the truth of their intentions. The left is hoping to change the requirements necessary to vote from citizenship to residency and their opposition to any and all efforts to protect the integrity of the voting process clearly demonstrates this.

PS- I'm glad we have you here to detail out why these lefties are fighting this law.

I also think it's so silly- we who care about keeping our elections clean have a right to expect that only lawful citizens are voting- and that our election process take whatever measures are necessary to keep the integrity of the system intact.

Here's the fact- this issue has come under recent scrutiny all over the country- funny how it's the left who are the only ones whining about it- they know good and well that Illegal's are voting where they have no right to vote.

For every little old lady who dosn't have a proper ID- there are probably hundred's if not thousands of people are Illegally trying to vote.

The "Undocumented worker" issue has become a political one- with thousands of Illegal workers demonstrating right here in Denver in recent years. A study of voter fraud has shown that many are already voting when they should not be.

These people think they are citizens just because they managed to get here without being arrested and deported. Now they feel entitled to all the privilages of an American citizen- like the right to squat here forever- receive government subsidies- send their illegal children to taxpayer funded schools- recieve medical treatment that they did not pay for- join the welfare state and YES- vote! They think they are entitled- mainly because those on the left have welcomed them and made them feel like the USA somehow owes them.

We know they are trying to make their influence known- the left is even trying to get them breaks in college tuition- an advantage that even lawful citizens in this state do not get.

We know they would break the law to vote fraudulently- hell- the mere fact that they are here Illegally shows very clearly that they have no regard for our laws! Some are even claiming that this land belongs to them!

The left fighting this issue also shows how little they care about the election process- they should be as interested in a clean election as everyone else.

They are political whores- willing to trade a fair election for a corrupt voting process- they have no moral integrity.

BearMtnHIB wrote: The "Undocumented worker" issue has become a political one- with thousands of Illegal workers demonstrating right here in Denver in recent years.

And you KNOW that every Hispanic in that demonstration was an "illegal" how?..............Source please....

BearMtnHIB wrote: A study of voter fraud has shown that many are already voting when they should not be.

Many?...As in SIX? (in 2010)...

Possible fraud in 2010 election

Six individuals are suspected of voter fraud in the 2010 election, according to the Colorado Secretary of State’s Office.

Based on a comparison of voting records between Kansas and Colorado, the individuals appear to have cast ballots in both states. The information has been turned over to the FBI for investigation.

In 2008, Colorado began sharing voter records with other states to identify fraudulent cross-state voters.

The alleged individuals are suspected to be landowners in both Colorado and Kansas. Three of them resided in CD 3, while the other three hailed from CD 4, CD 5 and CD 6.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/201 ... ion/55272/

Wow...If they were landowners in both Colorado and Kansas (in 2010) I wonder how those "illegal aliens" managed to save up enough money to buy land in both states--and forget to register?

In other words, YOU'RE A LIAR. ... (Unless, of course, you'd like to provide a source for your bullsh*t claim that "A study of voter fraud has shown that many are already voting when they should not be." What study would that be?

You're so full of crap you slosh when you walk... Unless, of course, you have sources to back up your xenophobic/bigoted charges...?

You wouldn't be talking about THIS discredited report would you?

Smoke and Mirrors: Alleged Non-Citizen Voting in NM and CO
By Keesha Gaskins – 04/01/11

Inconclusive Data, Inadvertent Registrations and No Intent: Overstating Conclusions based upon Self-Admitted Insufficient Data in Colorado

On March 8, 2011 Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler, released a 6-page report alleging that his office is “nearly certain” that 106 American immigrants are improperly registered to vote in Colorado. The blanket conclusion that there are over 11,805 improperly registered voters and of those 4,000 people improperly voted in the 2010 elections are called into question by the qualifying statements and equivocal recommendations contained in the report.

Secretary Gessler’s report admits that the inconclusive voter registration data does not prove that all 11, 805 persons it identified were registered improperly. It concludes that even where there are improper registrations, they could have been due to unintentional registration, clerical or other administrative failure without any intention of the registrants to vote or commit voter fraud. The report is utterly silent on how it arrived at the conclusion that over 4000 of the “improper registrants” voted in the 2010 election. There is simply a barely-supported conclusory statement that “it is likely” that many of the 4,214 registrants in question were not citizens when they cast their vote in 2010. Compare the 106 registered voters that the report alleges are “virtually certain” that they are not citizens, with no attempt to suggest that any of those 106 persons actually voted in 2010 or intended to commit fraud.

Brennan Center for Justice

So, if you enter the phrase "confirmed cases of voter fraud in Colorado" this is what you get? The SIX cases I've already researched for you--which proves nothing, except they were dual-state landowners and HIGHLY unlikely to be the "illegal alien" types you're so terrified of. And this report which shows that it was all smoke and mirrors and hooey and unsubstantiated bit of partisan bullcrap that they didn't even attempt to verify.


Unless you've got something else, you're STILL A LIAR.

Is there a reason you keep attempting to drive by the fact that the Supreme Court of the union has already ruled that requiring acceptable ID is not an infringement on the right to vote? Is there a reason why you keep attempting to drive by the reality that none of these laws denies anyone the ability to cast a vote on election day even in the absence of an acceptable ID? The fact that you keep alleging that it denies the right to vote to some because they don't have an acceptable ID is a bald faced lie that you continue to utter in the hopes it will be fundamentally transformed into truth. That makes you the liar LJ.

According to the standards you have adopted in other areas, this is a matter of what you like to refer to as "settled law" and why are you unwilling to accept "settled law" when you disagree with how the law is settled and yet you expect others to accept it when it is settled in opposition to their views? That would be, by any definition, a hypocritical act, wouldn't it?