Planned Parenthood Target Of New Undercover Sting?

plaidvillain wrote: Individuals are bestowed those rights, PS. An embryo is not an individual - it is a part of an individual - the mother. An embryo is NOT an independent being...it is dependant upon the mother - the mother who has the LEGAL RIGHT TO MAKE HER OWN DECISIONS.

A newborn child is no less dependent on someone else than the life within the womb is PV. A human life within the womb is an individual life, science has established that truth long ago. An embryo is not akin to a tumor, or a liver, or a heart, that is part of the mother. It is a separate life, dependent certainly, but separate nonetheless. It is only the denial of the unalienable rights with which it was endowed that makes it legal for the mother to destroy that human life - just as laws once made the denial of unalienable rights to those of African descent gave the master the legal right to decide to destroy his slave. We are not born equal PV - we are created equal and there is no reasoned argument which sustains the premise that the human life within the womb is past the point of its creation.

I have the legal right to make decisions which affect me - unless those decisions serve to deny to another the unalienable rights that they have been endowed with. That is the limit of my ability to exercise my rights - doing so may not deny to others their rights as a consequence of exercising my own. I may not take the life of another to provide for my own life. I may not take the life of another so that my life is made easier, or so that I can live as I choose to live. I may only take the life of another in defense of my own life - not my chosen life style - my continued physical existence as a living member of the human species.

Abortion destroys an existing human life PV. You may choose to deny it the rights to which it is entitled, just as others throughout human history have denied to others the rights to which they are entitled, but science will not allow you to deny that it is a human life that abortion destroys.

And yet the Supreme Court disagrees with you.

An embryo is not an individual being, but part of another individual. You refuse to accept this basic fact. A newborn baby IS an individual - developed fully enough to be born - separated from the individual it had relied upon for 9 months. Contrary to your OPINION, a baby can survive and exist independently.

Again, what does any of your long winded mumbo jumbo have to do with attacking, and trying tto destroy, an organization whose primary mission is to offer health services to women who may not otherwise receive care?

When it's still in the womb, it is not legally "another", which is guaranteed rights as an individual. The Supreme Court has said so... And you STILL don't get to impose your irrelevant religious opinions on it.

It's STILL not your fetus, and it's STILL none of your business.

plaidvillain wrote: Individuals are bestowed those rights, PS. An embryo is not an individual - it is a part of an individual - the mother. An embryo is NOT an independent being...it is dependant upon the mother - the mother who has the LEGAL RIGHT TO MAKE HER OWN DECISIONS.

To be fair- the mother could not have aquired this embryo without the father- shouldn't the father have a right in this decision? I really think the law should include the father too- don't you all think?

That would only be fair I think.

But it doesn't. So, since it's not the man's "body" that's at issue, it's still no one's choice but hers.

LJ- you and the other liberals keep making the baby Jesus cry.

BearMtnHIB wrote: LJ- you and the other liberals keep making the baby Jesus cry.

I'll get over it.

Kate wrote: And yet the Supreme Court disagrees with you.

You mean just a few individuals with political bias.

CritiKalbILL wrote:

Kate wrote: And yet the Supreme Court disagrees with you.

You mean just a few individuals with political bias.

No, I mean Supreme Court Justices, with legal background and knowledge exceeding your experience.