1st Presidential Debate thoughts...

06 Oct 2012 09:55 #111 by LadyJazzer
Yes, they were... For all to see...

The First Debate: Mitt Romney's Five Biggest Lies
The truth behind that $5 trillion tax cut, pre-existing conditions and more

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06 Oct 2012 11:43 #112 by Rick
Top Five Obama Tax Lies from the First Debate

http://www.atr.org/top-five-obama-tax-lies-first-a7228

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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06 Oct 2012 14:02 #113 by pineinthegrass
According to this, neither Obama or Romney may of been actually lying. They may of actually believed their untruths or half-truths...

If Barack Obama or Mitt Romney weren’t telling the truth at any point in last night’s debate, it appears they believed their own lies.

The group that got buzz on Wednesday by paying a security firm to use new truth detecting technology to give both candidates a lie-detector test during the debate said the preliminary results do not indicate any major lies from Obama or Romney.

“The lie detector voice analysis tests of the presidential debate were found to be inconclusive by Voice Analysis Technology,” a spokesman for the group, Americans for Limited Government, said Thursday.

“The technology can detect a deception if the
 person knows they are deceiving, but if they believe what they are saying is true, even if it is not, it is not picked up,” the group said.

The results are apparently a let down for the group, who had suggested that the test could help voters understand when the candidates weren’t being truthful during the debate.


http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/04/lie-detector-test-of-presidential-debate-proves-inconclusive/

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06 Oct 2012 14:22 #114 by LOL
LOL, if they ever perfect this lie detector technology, it could be the end of Politics! :lol:

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06 Oct 2012 15:40 #115 by jf1acai
:rofl , if they ever perfect this lie detector technology, it could be the end of marriage!




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07 Oct 2012 07:36 - 08 Oct 2012 13:30 #116 by TPP
I Don't lie to Wiffie, and that get's me trouble, besides she'd know.

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07 Oct 2012 08:57 #117 by akilina

jf1acai wrote: :rofl, if they ever perfect this lie detector technology, it could be the end of marriage!




:wink:


lol I have an idea that spouses know their spouses well enough to detect w/o lie detector tech.

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07 Oct 2012 19:18 #118 by ScienceChic
My thoughts: neither Romney won, nor Obama lost. The status quo won, and the American people lost. The arguments afterwards remained about the Republicans and Democrats. They managed to keep alternative choices out of the debate, give non-answers, avoid real issues, and limit our choices yet again - even down to the candidates that we are left to vote on from the original caucuses which are rife with issues.

Did anyone watch the Democracy Now expanded debate including Dr. Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson? They invited the Libertarian candidate to participate too, but he declined. It's at this link in case you're interested.
Expanding the Debate–Watch Democracy Now’s Full Three-Hour Special

Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney squared off in their first debate, Democracy Now! produced a three-hour special, Expanding the Debate. We aired the Obama/Romney debate and paused after questions to include responses from two presidential contenders who were shut out of the official debate: Jill Stein of the Green Party and Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party.

The special broadcast also featured interviews with George Farah, founder and Executive Director of Open Debates about how the Republican and Democratic parties secretly control the presidential debates; Vincent Harding, friend, colleague and former speechwriter of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; and Miriam Peña executive director of the Colorado Progressive Coalition.


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08 Oct 2012 06:37 #119 by LOL
I'd like to see Gary Johnson and Jill Stein debate and answer the same questions.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/front

"Gary Johnson has been an outspoken advocate for efficient government, balanced budgets, rational drug policy reform, protection of civil liberties, comprehensive tax reform, and personal freedom. As Governor of New Mexico, Johnson was known for his common sense business approach to governing. He eliminated New Mexico's budget deficit, cut the rate of growth in state government in half, and privatized half of the state prisons."

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08 Oct 2012 08:00 #120 by Rick

Science Chic wrote: My thoughts: neither Romney won, nor Obama lost. The status quo won, and the American people lost. The arguments afterwards remained about the Republicans and Democrats. They managed to keep alternative choices out of the debate, give non-answers, avoid real issues, and limit our choices yet again - even down to the candidates that we are left to vote on from the original caucuses which are rife with issues.

Did anyone watch the Democracy Now expanded debate including Dr. Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson? They invited the Libertarian candidate to participate too, but he declined. It's at this link in case you're interested.
Expanding the Debate–Watch Democracy Now’s Full Three-Hour Special

Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney squared off in their first debate, Democracy Now! produced a three-hour special, Expanding the Debate. We aired the Obama/Romney debate and paused after questions to include responses from two presidential contenders who were shut out of the official debate: Jill Stein of the Green Party and Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party.

The special broadcast also featured interviews with George Farah, founder and Executive Director of Open Debates about how the Republican and Democratic parties secretly control the presidential debates; Vincent Harding, friend, colleague and former speechwriter of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; and Miriam Peña executive director of the Colorado Progressive Coalition.

I appreciate your optimism SC, and if there were a significant movement to change the status quo, I'd be right there with you. But there's not. OWS could have made some headway here if they were not hypocrites and actually understood that Obama is not the answer. If you know with 99.9% certainty that Obama or Romney will win THIS election, your vote for someone else is just a statement. It's a lot like buying an electric car and thinking you are actually making a difference in the big picture. There needs to be a national movement like OWS or the Tea Party (along with a candidate with deep pockets). Money and enthusiasm for a third party just isn't there yet. Maybe when the country is closer to collapse... maybe in 2016, but not this time.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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