Benghazi: People Died Obama Lied

LadyJazzer wrote: But not the same administration (Bush & Condoleeza Rice) that we KNOW LIED about the "nuclear weapons"/WMD's in Iraq that directly led to the deaths of 4,780 service men and women.

OK, suppose you got your way and the war in Iraq never happened, Saddam would have continued to commit genocide against the Shi'ite and Kurd minorities. So the US would have stood aside and let genocide happen. Sins of omission?

Well, we know that we would have 4,780 more U.S. service personnel coming home to their families for Christmas, don't we...

Yes, I'd rather have that than letting the neo-cons (who never met a war they didn't like) jumping into other internal civil wars that are/were none of our business...

Pure speculation Fred, but yeah,I guess it's better that we killed all those civilians than if Saddam did. Though the people aren't any less dead.

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: But not the same administration (Bush & Condoleeza Rice) that we KNOW LIED about the "nuclear weapons"/WMD's in Iraq that directly led to the deaths of 4,780 service men and women.

OK, suppose you got your way and the war in Iraq never happened, Saddam would have continued to commit genocide against the Shi'ite and Kurd minorities. So the US would have stood aside and let genocide happen. Sins of omission?

We've done it before, most notably in Africa where there's no oil.

Raees wrote:

FredHayek wrote:

LadyJazzer wrote: But not the same administration (Bush & Condoleeza Rice) that we KNOW LIED about the "nuclear weapons"/WMD's in Iraq that directly led to the deaths of 4,780 service men and women.

OK, suppose you got your way and the war in Iraq never happened, Saddam would have continued to commit genocide against the Shi'ite and Kurd minorities. So the US would have stood aside and let genocide happen. Sins of omission?

We've done it before, most notably in Africa where there's no oil.

http://www.africagoodnews.com/africa/facts.html

"Black gold
•Africa holds about 10% of the world's proven oil reserves
•The continent is likely to attract $50 billion in investment in the oil sector alone by the end of the decade.
•Libya is Africa's biggest oil producer, with an estimated 41.5 proven barrels of oil and vast unexplored areas.
•Angola, the fastest-growing African oil producer, has seen growth averaging 17% annually over the past few years. Crude oil exports are expected to jump 44% to $56bn in 2008.
•The oil exporting countries of Equatorial Guinea, Angola, Chad, Sudan, Nigeria, Congo Republic and Gabon enjoyed an average GDP growth of 7,4% from 1996-2005.
•Oil reserves in West Africa alone have been estimated at 110 billion barrels, which, if proven, would be on a par with Iraq and more than Kuwait.
•Libya's 41.5 billion barrels of oil reserves and Nigeria's 36 billion barrels are both twice the size of China's proven reserves and just under twice the size of US reserves."

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BETRAEUS!

Gee, you must have had your head up...er, watching only FauxNews today... I just saw a Congressman who was in the closed hearings who said that Petreaus confirmed that what Susan Rice said was "what they knew" on the Saturday night before her appearances. And that days later they began to realize they needed to reassess what they "thought they knew."

But, hey, don't let those pesky facts get in your way...

"We don' need no steenkin' fact-checkers".... (famous last words)...

FredHayek wrote: Nixon didn't lose his job because of the burglary but because of the coverup. Obama might want to remember that.

Excellent point!

Obviously, Bush and Condoleeza Rice didn't lose their jobs because they lied and 4,780 U.S. soldiers died, and about 120,000 Iraqis died....

They didn't lie, in my opinion......According to Petraeus.....your guy did.

And it would appear he asked others to lie on his behalf......who knows, maybe Rice will get a better job out of it.