NRA Conference: LaPierre Calls for Armed Cops every school

Heisenberg wrote: Criminals will always use "gun free zones" as target practice before all others. Nobody has a problem with cops guarding money in banks, buut foor some reason children are not as valuable a commodity. Ask the parents of those murdered children what they think about school security and I'll bet you don't find many unhinged LJs who believe more laws will protect more kids.

Unfortunately, you probably will. Too many folks these days want the government to protect them. No sense of responsibility for their own well-being and safety.

Heisenberg wrote: And ask yourselves this question, what chance do unarmed men, women and children have in any building that's been breached by a maniac with a weapon? I say they have nothing other than some luck and some hope.

agreed

The only nuts I saw today were the lunatics waving bright banners in front of the camera and kicking and screaming as they were escorted out of the press conference. All this while the NRA rep was trying to make a point. Really??? Who is going to listen to some screaming nutjob? If they have something to say, they should call a press conference like the NRA did. Otherwise they should STFU so we can hear what the gentleman has to say.

Timothy McVee proved years ago that you don't need an assault rifle to harm lots of people. Terrorists confirm this almost daily around the world. These gun ban efforts are meant to placate certain members of the populous. People who want the Government "to just make it go away". The same asswipes who want the Government running every other aspect of their miserable life.

The NRA has it right. If you want to stop a lunatic with a weapon, have a competent marksman in position to deal with the lunatic. Give them rules of engagement that will allow them to use deadly force from the get-go. No warning shots, no wounding shots. Shoot to kill. Two rounds to the head and two rounds to the chest. That will take all the shine and swagger out of being a lunatic.

Second good point. The press needs to STOP going on and on and on glorifying the horrific acts. Oh, and we need to demand that the press do so. Otherwise we should boycott the stations that make a circus out of these tragedies.

If you bought your kid some sort of game that makes war into a game....you are part of the problem too. Sorry, but it's true. Our children are starting to think combat is some sort of a "game". They are desensitized to the horrors.

Finally, if we want to talk about how to "fix" this problem we really need to have an adult conversation about how to deal with mentally ill people. Cripes, there are mentally ill people on this site who allegedly own weapons. Scares the crap out of me.

It's not the weapons folks. It's just not. But I will let the left have it's "rant of the month".

:Whistle .

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Gee, how fascinating is this....

Columbine High School Had Armed Guards During Massacre In 1999
But having armed security on-site failed to prevent the deadliest mass murder at an American high school.

In 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 15 people and wounded 23 more at Columbine High School. The destruction occurred despite the fact that there was an armed security officer at the school and another one nearby -- exactly what LaPierre argued on Friday was the answer to stopping "a bad guy with a gun."

Deputy Neil Gardner was a 15-year veteran of the Jefferson County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office assigned as the uniformed officer at Columbine. According to an account compiled by the police department, Gardner fired on Harris but was unsuccessful in stopping him:

Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy.

After the exchange of gunfire, Harris ran back into the building. Gardner was able to get on the police radio and called for assistance from other Sheriff’s units. "Shots in the building. I need someone in the south lot with me."

The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn't stop him.

LaPierre said having armed security on the scene is necessary so someone is there to shoot back. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said. "Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away -- or a minute away?"

But in chaotic situations, it's often impossible to identify the "bad guy," as Smoker said in his account of Columbine: "There was an unknown inside a school. We didn't know who the 'bad guy' was but we soon realized the sophistication of their weapons. These were big bombs. Big guns. We didn’t have a clue who 'they' were."

"That's the point," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) at a press conference on Friday afternoon, denouncing LaPierre's solution. "There were two armed law enforcement officers at that campus, and you see what happened. Fifteen dead ... 23 wounded."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/2 ... 47096.html

Yeah, really effective... Oh, they weren't standing in front of the entrance when the two murderers entered?.. Well, I guess you can't be in the right-place at the right-time all the time...and sh*t happens.

There are no absolutes. Personally I think the armed guard is going to be the first guy to get shot in many cases. It is hard to stay at top readiness for more than a couple hours.

FredHayek wrote: There are no absolutes. Personally I think the armed guard is going to be the first guy to get shot in many cases. It is hard to stay at top readiness for more than a couple hours.

That to me is why ccw holders inside the school make a lot more sense. An armed guard is an easy target but if you don't know who's armed and who isn't the assailant is at a distinct disadvantage.

Just like Sky Marshals.

And the Arming Pilots program has been a big success! No pilots so far have shot holes in their planes. (Or idiot passengers.)

The landscape is changing... Watch what happens next....

Richard Blumenthal: NRA 'Irrelevant' In Gun Debate After Sandy Hook

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), whose state was rocked last week by a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, said Friday that the National Rifle Association was "sadly and shamefully inadequate" in its response to the massacre.

"The NRA today in its approach will be irrelevant, because it can't be a credible and constructive participant in this debate if it says the only acceptable solution is armed guards in schools," Blumenthal said at a press conference with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who plans to introduce a gun control bill next congressional session.

"Is this the answer, that America should become an armed camp?" she said.

Feinstein said she is working with House members for a bill there, and that senator-elect and current Rep. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) told her this week he wants to work on her gun control effort. The senator said she also has support from former President Bill Clinton, who helped to pass a now-expired assault weapons ban in 1993. Clinton called her to say he will help however he can, she said.

Blumenthal said his conversations with those in Newtown and elsewhere indicate people want something to be done about guns, particularly assault weapons. He also noted that NRA members have contacted his office to say they disagree with the organization. "The Newtown tragedy was a call for action, and the NRA has failed to answer that call," Blumenthal said.

He added that law enforcement officers in Newtown told him that they weren't sure they could have stopped the shooter because of the heavy level of weapons he was carrying.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/2 ... 47422.html


Spin & Deflect... That's all you've got left... The NUTS COME OUT, and the NRA is irrelevant...

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