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But why did the parents think it was a good idea to put a picture of their kid with the gun on social media that apparently was available to the public, or at least friends of friends.

To me the real question is why do some think there is something wrong with it? The kid has been/is being supervised/trained to use it, and is rightfully proud and excited to have it. He sure can't take it to school for 'Show and Tell', so why shouldn't it be shown off on Facebook?

I saw today the New York State is offering $500 rewards for dropping a dime on people you think have illegal guns and magazines. Police state.

jf1acai wrote:

But why did the parents think it was a good idea to put a picture of their kid with the gun on social media that apparently was available to the public, or at least friends of friends.

To me the real question is why do some think there is something wrong with it? The kid has been/is being supervised/trained to use it, and is rightfully proud and excited to have it. He sure can't take it to school for 'Show and Tell', so why shouldn't it be shown off on Facebook?

Maybe it's just me, but i wouldn't put a picture of my kid even without a gun on Facebook unless the privacy settings are set to friends only. Perhaps one of their friends set the authorities on them,

Archer.....so what ? The state is evolving....both First and Second Amentment issues here.....

deltamrey wrote: Archer.....so what ? The state is evolving....both First and Second Amentment issues here.....

There could be.... But the fact that authorities didn't follow through leads me to believe this was more about the child than about the gun..... And it appears they realized they overstepped their authority. But feel few to continue the chicken little act..... Guns, with the possible exception of some assault style weapons, will never be banned in this country..... But Im sure it is to some people's advantage to make others believe that they will..... I question their motives.

In a statement, Carney Point Police Chief Robert DiGregorio and Mayor Richard Gatanis said officers went to the family's home at about 8:15 p.m. Friday after getting anonymous tips that a boy there might have access to weapons and ammunition.

"In light of some of the recent school shootings across our nation, the Carneys Point Police Department takes these types of calls seriously," they said, adding that they were obligated to go there with state Department of Children and Family caseworkers who requested assistance.

Moore had said the authorities requested to see his weapons, but with his lawyer on a speakerphone he denied them access because they did not have a search warrant.

The Carneys Point officials said the officers – in night uniforms and body armor but not SWAT gear – did not attempt an unlawful search.

The officials said that they respect citizens' rights to own weapons and that several officers knew the elder Moore from a shooting club.

archer wrote:

deltamrey wrote: Archer.....so what ? The state is evolving....both First and Second Amentment issues here.....

There could be.... But the fact that authorities didn't follow through leads me to believe this was more about the child than about the gun..... And it appears they realized they overstepped their authority. But feel few to continue the chicken little act..... Guns, with the possible exception of some assault style weapons, will never be banned in this country..... But Im sure it is to some people's advantage to make others believe that they will..... I question their motives.

I am confused. Whose motives are you questioning? IMO this story is not about guns at all. It is about the intrusion of government in our lives.

Dog, do you think the outcome would have been the same if his lawyer had not been on speakerphone?

Something the Dog Said wrote: In a statement, Carney Point Police Chief Robert DiGregorio and Mayor Richard Gatanis said officers went to the family's home at about 8:15 p.m. Friday after getting anonymous tips that a boy there might have access to weapons and ammunition.

"In light of some of the recent school shootings across our nation, the Carneys Point Police Department takes these types of calls seriously," they said, adding that they were obligated to go there with state Department of Children and Family caseworkers who requested assistance.

Moore had said the authorities requested to see his weapons, but with his lawyer on a speakerphone he denied them access because they did not have a search warrant.

The Carneys Point officials said the officers – in night uniforms and body armor but not SWAT gear – did not attempt an unlawful search.

The officials said that they respect citizens' rights to own weapons and that several officers knew the elder Moore from a shooting club.

Bob IMHO has it nailed.....police well know they should not enter a home without just cause or a warrent.....why did they feel they could get away with this ?? FYI the CO State Patrol entered a young man's home after a neighbor complained of noise and killed him in his living room. The kid was unarmed. The trooper had no warrant but suspected he had been driving and drinking earlier. He had no evidence the kid had been driving and drinking. The taxpayers are out several million as a result.....the parents won big time a wrongful death suite.....this was settled in 2012. The head of the CO State Patrol retired soon after. This stuff is rife here in CO also.

Depends on the individual. Certainly the police would have entered the home only if they had received permission or if they believed exigent circumstances justified their entry. I do find it interesting that this individual had a 2nd Amendment rights attorney on retainer and available on speakerphone at that particular instant.

Based on the sketchy facts, I believe it is likely that the local police had been under pressure to investigate child endangerment calls (discussed in further detail in the article), received a tip, investigated it, recognized the home owner, requested permission to check it out, and when denied, went on their way. I do find it interesting that the father has used the media to publicize this instance along with having a 2nd Amendment attorney on retainer prior to the investigation.