IRSS (Internal Revenue Schutzstaffel) Gruppen news summary

archer wrote: I can't find any numbers on how many conservative groups have filed for 401(c)(4) status vs how many liberal groups have applied. Without those numbers how do we know that a greater percentage of conservative groups are still waiting? We also don't know if a greater percentage of conservative groups are trying to use the new ruling to qualify new groups for this status who don't meet the criteria. So many unanswered questions, I hope some INDEPENDENT group investigates and sorts it all out.

Read the TIGTA report... those questions are not unanswered.

Sorry for the typo in my post....it is 501(c)(4) not 401..... I don't have the time to read the entire report, But I did skim through it and did not find exactly what I was looking for....perhaps you have read it all and can point me to the location for this......

From the report:

we identified some organizations’ applications
with evidence of significant political campaign intervention that were not forwarded to the team
of specialists for processing but should have been. We also identified applications that were
forwarded to the team of specialists but did not have indications of significant political campaign
intervention. All applications that were forwarded to the team of specialists experienced
substantial delays in processing.

Much of what I looked at referred to political groups.....not particular tea party or liberal groups. Those that specifically refer to tea party and other specific terms the IRS used to "profile" applications are not compared to the entire group of conservative applications or liberal applications....nor to the entire political applications that I could fine. One chart had the largest group as "other".

About 1/3 of the applications subjected to additional processing included Tea Party, Patriots or 9/12 in their names.

60 out of the 196 applications reviewed by TIGTA were open from 206 to 1138 calendar days which crossed two election cycles and spanned 3 years.

KEY POINTS

Ineffective oversight by IRS management led to significant delays in processing potential political cases.
Lack of specific guidance to the Determinations Unit specialists on what activities are allowed by 501(c)(4) organizations led to confusion and delays in the review of the applications.
It took nearly two years after this criteria was first flagged as potentially inappropriate for the IRS to provide a 2 day training workshop to the specialists in May 2012 to train them on what activities are allowable by a 501(c)(4) organization.
Political cases on average were taking 574 calendar days to process as compared to 238 calendar days for regular tax exempt organizations.
IRS senior management failed to ensure that staff followed orders about screening after management became aware of inappropriate political targeting in July 2011.
501(c)(5) organizations are subject to the same tests as 501(c)(4) organizations. There was a larger spike in percentage terms in 501(c)(5) applications in 2012 than there was in 501(c)(4)s, yet there was no profiling of 501(c)(5)s.

http://www.finance.senate.gov/newsroom/ ... c177839cad

No... and that's just my point... you won't find any liberal groups mentioned in the TIGTA report.

And I spent two days listening to the committee investigations and more precise figures were given there.

Do you own math and homework.

Perhaps you should really considering getting a life. Spending two days listening to staged congressional hearings of no consequence? Is there not a more productive way to spend your life? No friends or family to share experiences with? No time spent experience nature? No time spent in the service of others? Wow! No wonder you are so bitter.

Something the Dog Said wrote: Perhaps you should really considering getting a life. Spending two days listening to staged congressional hearings of no consequence? Is there not a more productive way to spend your life? No friends or family to share experiences with? No time spent experience nature? No time spent in the service of others? Wow! No wonder you are so bitter.

I work from home as a programmer. I have great internet connection. I can work and stream content at the same time. I can multitask. You're deflection is wasted. But thanks for playing.

Something the Dog Said wrote: Perhaps you should really considering getting a life. Spending two days listening to staged congressional hearings of no consequence? Is there not a more productive way to spend your life? No friends or family to share experiences with? No time spent experience nature? No time spent in the service of others? Wow! No wonder you are so bitter.

And your statement is so typical of a liberal. Why waste time with what goes on in Washington? The liberal low-information voters don't need the facts... just a good feeling... vote for Obama because he's black... his past experience as a "leader" and his congressional record has nothing to do with whether he's qualified to be president. After some of the crap I've heard coming out of these hearings... and the "I just read about it in the media" bull crap coming from Obama, Holder, Lerner, Shulman and Miller makes one wonder if Obama and this administration has a grip on anything that's going on around them.

Typical conservative, playing the race card, trying to mislead the american public with manufactured 'outrages' rather than the facts of the total abdication by conservatives of responsibility to improving the economy, the safety and the health of America.

A lot of low information Republicans voted for Barack too. (At least the first time.) They had better info the second time.

...And a lousy slate of candidates....

And at the end of the day, 17 fewer teabaggers in office.

Only 17? Talk about short coattails for Obama...usually a President who wins re-election does much better than that.