Joe Biden backs park ranger who stopped vets at WWII memoria

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Blazer Bob wrote:

I thought you were kidding.

Rushmore blockage stirs anger in S.D.

Blocking access to trails and programs at South Dakota’s most popular attraction was one thing, but state officials didn’t expect Congress’ budget stalemate to shut down a view of Mount Rushmore.

The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.

http://www.argusleader.com/article/2013 ... -?gcheck=1

I'm sure they're paying people to put cones on the road and to block access roads.

It is political theatre at best. 83% of goverment is still going on.

Friggin unbellievable. The National Park Service won't allow our veterns to visit an open air war memorial but they do grant permission for a pro immigration reform protest on the national mall.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/parks-service-grants-permission-for-pro-immigration-reform-protest-on-closed-national-mall/

Ronbo wrote: Friggin unbellievable. The National Park Service won't allow our veterns to visit an open air war memorial but they do grant permission for a pro immigration reform protest on the national mall.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/parks-service-grants-permission-for-pro-immigration-reform-protest-on-closed-national-mall/

Frigging unbelievable. Some posters actually believe right wing blogs over the truth!

"“I was afraid we’d be sitting outside looking in,” said Bob Hamilton, a World War II veteran from Green Valley who, like many of the veterans on the Honor Flight trip, was nervous the the monument would be closed once they got there.

The memorial, like all monuments, was closed to the public last week when the federal government shut down because of a congressional budget impasse.

That made headlines when it appeared some veterans were going to be turned away from the monument by National Park Service rangers, and members of Congress showed up to push back the barriers as the media looked on.

But it was a different story Monday, as park rangers showed up at the memorial before the veterans to remove the barriers and let them in.

“The park service could not be more accommodating and helpful for us,” said Emerson Knowles, board president for Honor Flight Southern Arizona, which brought the veterans to D.C."

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/rep ... -memorial/

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Ronbo wrote: Friggin unbellievable. The National Park Service won't allow our veterns to visit an open air war memorial but they do grant permission for a pro immigration reform protest on the national mall.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/parks-service-grants-permission-for-pro-immigration-reform-protest-on-closed-national-mall/

Frigging unbelievable. Some posters actually believe right wing blogs over the truth!

"“I was afraid we’d be sitting outside looking in,” said Bob Hamilton, a World War II veteran from Green Valley who, like many of the veterans on the Honor Flight trip, was nervous the the monument would be closed once they got there.

The memorial, like all monuments, was closed to the public last week when the federal government shut down because of a congressional budget impasse.

That made headlines when it appeared some veterans were going to be turned away from the monument by National Park Service rangers, and members of Congress showed up to push back the barriers as the media looked on.

But it was a different story Monday, as park rangers showed up at the memorial before the veterans to remove the barriers and let them in.

“The park service could not be more accommodating and helpful for us,” said Emerson Knowles, board president for Honor Flight Southern Arizona, which brought the veterans to D.C."

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/rep ... -memorial/

Yeah, if you think ABC news is a right wing blog than you have your head up where the sun doesn't shine. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/world-war-ii-veterans-prove-unstoppable-entering-memorial/story?id=20446144

"On Tuesday -- the first full day of the shutdown -- more than 140 veterans also made the journey from Mississippi and Iowa, to visit the memorial. By wheelchair and with cane in hand they came to find the World War II Memorial closed -- fenced off with bicycle gates, police tape and a sign that read, "Because of the Federal Government SHUTDOWN, All National Parks Are CLOSED."

By 11:45 a.m., with help from members of Congress, the flimsy gates were pushed aside and the vets were able to reflect and enjoy the granite and bronze tribute to their service so many years ago. But by Tuesday afternoon, the memorial was re-closed and cleared by U.S. Park Police. Honor Flights were notified that they should anticipate the memorial will be shut down."

Ronbo wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Ronbo wrote: Friggin unbellievable. The National Park Service won't allow our veterns to visit an open air war memorial but they do grant permission for a pro immigration reform protest on the national mall.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/parks-service-grants-permission-for-pro-immigration-reform-protest-on-closed-national-mall/

Frigging unbelievable. Some posters actually believe right wing blogs over the truth!

"“I was afraid we’d be sitting outside looking in,” said Bob Hamilton, a World War II veteran from Green Valley who, like many of the veterans on the Honor Flight trip, was nervous the the monument would be closed once they got there.

The memorial, like all monuments, was closed to the public last week when the federal government shut down because of a congressional budget impasse.

That made headlines when it appeared some veterans were going to be turned away from the monument by National Park Service rangers, and members of Congress showed up to push back the barriers as the media looked on.

But it was a different story Monday, as park rangers showed up at the memorial before the veterans to remove the barriers and let them in.

“The park service could not be more accommodating and helpful for us,” said Emerson Knowles, board president for Honor Flight Southern Arizona, which brought the veterans to D.C."

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/rep ... -memorial/

Yeah, if you think ABC news is a right wing blog than you have your head up where the sun doesn't shine. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/world-war-ii-veterans-prove-unstoppable-entering-memorial/story?id=20446144

"On Tuesday -- the first full day of the shutdown -- more than 140 veterans also made the journey from Mississippi and Iowa, to visit the memorial. By wheelchair and with cane in hand they came to find the World War II Memorial closed -- fenced off with bicycle gates, police tape and a sign that read, "Because of the Federal Government SHUTDOWN, All National Parks Are CLOSED."

By 11:45 a.m., with help from members of Congress, the flimsy gates were pushed aside and the vets were able to reflect and enjoy the granite and bronze tribute to their service so many years ago. But by Tuesday afternoon, the memorial was re-closed and cleared by U.S. Park Police. Honor Flights were notified that they should anticipate the memorial will be shut down."

Of course if you were honest, you would have included the next paragraph from the ABC report:

According to the National Park Service, the memorial remains officially closed, but a statement released by the department states Honor Flight members will not be barred from entering the site.

"The Honor Flights are being granted access to the WWII memorial to conduct First Amendment activities in accordance with National Park Service regulations applicable to the National Mall and Memorial Parks," said National Park Service Spokeswoman Carol Johnson in a statement regarding the closure of World War II and other national memorials in DC. "This is consistent with the DOI Closure Determination and Notice issued on October 1, 2013."


And according to NBC News as reported on October 2, 2013;
Hundreds of veterans are being granted access to the shuttered World War II Memorial on the National Mall Wednesday, a day after members of Congress pushed aside barriers to allow another group inside.

The mall's memorials are closed as part of the government shutdown, with barricades placed around them after the government shutdown took effect at midnight Tuesday.

But the National Park Service said Wednesday that it's allowing access to WWII veterans -- many of whom are in their 80s and 90s, with some in wheelchairs -- so they can exercise their first amendment rights, reported News4's Mark Segraves.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local ... 52471.html

But of course if the facts were included, then where would the "outrage" be?

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Ronbo wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Ronbo wrote: Friggin unbellievable. The National Park Service won't allow our veterns to visit an open air war memorial but they do grant permission for a pro immigration reform protest on the national mall.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/parks-service-grants-permission-for-pro-immigration-reform-protest-on-closed-national-mall/

Frigging unbelievable. Some posters actually believe right wing blogs over the truth!

"“I was afraid we’d be sitting outside looking in,” said Bob Hamilton, a World War II veteran from Green Valley who, like many of the veterans on the Honor Flight trip, was nervous the the monument would be closed once they got there.

The memorial, like all monuments, was closed to the public last week when the federal government shut down because of a congressional budget impasse.

That made headlines when it appeared some veterans were going to be turned away from the monument by National Park Service rangers, and members of Congress showed up to push back the barriers as the media looked on.

But it was a different story Monday, as park rangers showed up at the memorial before the veterans to remove the barriers and let them in.

“The park service could not be more accommodating and helpful for us,” said Emerson Knowles, board president for Honor Flight Southern Arizona, which brought the veterans to D.C."

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/rep ... -memorial/

Yeah, if you think ABC news is a right wing blog than you have your head up where the sun doesn't shine. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/world-war-ii-veterans-prove-unstoppable-entering-memorial/story?id=20446144

"On Tuesday -- the first full day of the shutdown -- more than 140 veterans also made the journey from Mississippi and Iowa, to visit the memorial. By wheelchair and with cane in hand they came to find the World War II Memorial closed -- fenced off with bicycle gates, police tape and a sign that read, "Because of the Federal Government SHUTDOWN, All National Parks Are CLOSED."

By 11:45 a.m., with help from members of Congress, the flimsy gates were pushed aside and the vets were able to reflect and enjoy the granite and bronze tribute to their service so many years ago. But by Tuesday afternoon, the memorial was re-closed and cleared by U.S. Park Police. Honor Flights were notified that they should anticipate the memorial will be shut down."

Of course if you were honest, you would have included the next paragraph from the ABC report:

According to the National Park Service, the memorial remains officially closed, but a statement released by the department states Honor Flight members will not be barred from entering the site.

"The Honor Flights are being granted access to the WWII memorial to conduct First Amendment activities in accordance with National Park Service regulations applicable to the National Mall and Memorial Parks," said National Park Service Spokeswoman Carol Johnson in a statement regarding the closure of World War II and other national memorials in DC. "This is consistent with the DOI Closure Determination and Notice issued on October 1, 2013."


And according to NBC News as reported on October 2, 2013;
Hundreds of veterans are being granted access to the shuttered World War II Memorial on the National Mall Wednesday, a day after members of Congress pushed aside barriers to allow another group inside.

The mall's memorials are closed as part of the government shutdown, with barricades placed around them after the government shutdown took effect at midnight Tuesday.

But the National Park Service said Wednesday that it's allowing access to WWII veterans -- many of whom are in their 80s and 90s, with some in wheelchairs -- so they can exercise their first amendment rights, reported News4's Mark Segraves.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local ... 52471.html

But of course if the facts were included, then where would the "outrage" be?

And you of course know that the ONLY reason it was re-opened is because people WERE outraged rightfully, and the administration was forced to open it again.

Except that the memorial was never closed to the veterans. The "outrage" was manufactured photo ops by the Republicans and the attack on the park ranger was totally unwarranted.

Something the Dog Said wrote: Except that the memorial was never closed to the veterans. The "outrage" was manufactured photo ops by the Republicans and the attack on the park ranger was totally unwarranted.

Oh you mean the tape and baracades were illusions?

The tape and "baracades" were put in place to stop non-veterans from entering the war memorial. The DOI had a policy from the beginning to allow veterans to enter the memorial per the news reports. But then you probably knew that, didn't you.