ACA (Obamacare) updates for 2014

11 Mar 2014 21:27 #351 by Mtn Gramma
But you gotta admit that the names involved are fun. The loser: Sink The winner: Jolly.

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11 Mar 2014 21:57 #352 by Photo-fish

Cathy_Lee wrote:

FredHayek wrote: In a Florida special election seen as a referendum on ACA the Dem Sink lost to Republican Jolly. Foreshadowing for November?


While I'd love to think so, he won in a Republican controlled district, replacing a longtime Republican. I don't think you can extrapolate that victory out to the entire country.

No. He BARELY won in a district that has been in Republican hands for 30 years! (48.5 to 46.7)
Not much of a referendum at all if you ask me

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12 Mar 2014 06:56 #353 by FredHayek
If the Dems didn't think they could win in that district, why did they spend so much money there? Plus the Libertarian vote obscured the real winning numbers.

But you ACA guys keep spinning the 4 million people signed up out of 320 million.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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12 Mar 2014 08:27 #354 by Reverend Revelant
Arrogance?

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The President responded that “if you looked at their cable bill, their telephone, their cell phone bill… it may turn out that, it’s just they haven’t prioritized health care.” He added that if a family member gets sick, the father “will wish he had paid that $300 a month.”


And I think the President forgot to include deductibles in his math.

Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD

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12 Mar 2014 08:57 #355 by Venturer
He should have to use it instead of his on staff physicians so that he can get the numbers right and understand just how bad ACA is.

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12 Mar 2014 09:01 #356 by Venturer
Don't know how to transfer cartoons from google but this one is good. Tried using image but it couldn't determine the dimensions of the image.

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12 Mar 2014 14:13 #357 by FredHayek
Today Barack Obama met with boy band member Lance Bass to talk about how to get the young signed up for ACA. So is the POTUS planning to bring in Menudo tomorrow to discuss immigration issues?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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12 Mar 2014 15:56 #358 by Venturer
What a surprise!
Sebelius says Obamacare premiums will go up next year
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius admitted Wednesday that Obamacare premiums will probably go up in 2015, that she does not know how many Obamacare customers have paid their premiums, and that she does not know how many Obamacare enrollees had insurance previously.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/12/sebel ... next-year/

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12 Mar 2014 16:41 #359 by Reverend Revelant

GreatGran wrote: What a surprise!
Sebelius says Obamacare premiums will go up next year
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius admitted Wednesday that Obamacare premiums will probably go up in 2015, that she does not know how many Obamacare customers have paid their premiums, and that she does not know how many Obamacare enrollees had insurance previously.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/12/sebel ... next-year/


This is precisely why the recent figure of 4.2 million enrollments is bogus. They don't know how many of those enrolled actually have paid for their insurance, they can't tell you how many of those enrolled are people who were part of the normal cycle of Medicare enrollments and they don't know how many who have enrolled were people who already had "policies that they liked" and were forced to renew under Obamacare.

This whole law was designed to help those who didn't have insurance and yet the figures released by HHS themselves (and a number of other firms that track this kind of data) show that they are no where close to covering the people who really needed this help.

And the young, healthy folks that were suppose to sign up to help support the financial burden of this law has not increased one bit. There has been a flat 25% of young people enrollment from day one, no where near the 37% they claimed they needed to make this law financially viable.

The GOP has been slammed and vilified for 3 years in regards to their attempts to modify or repeal this law, yet the administration themselves have made over 30 changes to the law since it's inception. And many of those changes were already suggested to the administration by the GOP and some Democrats.

Every change erodes this law and it's stability, piece by piece, part by part and it's collapsing under it's own weight. It's like a game of Jenga.

And we are 3 weeks out from the end of the enrollment period. Bottom line, this is going to cost everyone. This law is not helping poor people and this law is becoming a financial burden to the strapped middle class.

So much for any equitable equality.

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12 Mar 2014 17:06 #360 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: If the Dems didn't think they could win in that district, why did they spend so much money there? Plus the Libertarian vote obscured the real winning numbers.

But you ACA guys keep spinning the 4 million people signed up out of 320 million.


Which, of course, is a bullsh*t number, since millions of that 320 million are children 25 and under which can stay on their parent's policies until age 26 and aren't counted in the 4-million. And all of those millions who already get coverage at work are not counted in the 4-million because they are already covered...

Gee, Fred, still haven't learned how to read the "AP"? Still regurgitating talking-points from the source-free fact-free echo chamber instead of REAL numbers? Why am I not surprised....At least us "ACA guys" know how to count.

Tell you what...Why don't you tell us again how that's the "lowest number of people covered since 2008"....?

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