ACA (Obamacare) updates for 2014

homeagain wrote: Then CEASE the bullsh** about Obamacare.....the paradigm REQUIRED changing (and the '2 for1"
administration....Hillary ATTEMPTED to address this many,many moons ago).....it should have
been addressed decades ago....BUT, the "widening gap" between the moneyed and the "barely
getting by" has INCREASED disproportionately....there are a MYRIAD of reasons for that....off
shore DISplacing of jobs...manufacturing disappearing...the list goes on endlessly....THIS is the
NEW NORMAL (and yes it is quite a bit different than what Americans have come to expect.)...

ABJECT poverty is what you are describing,BUT what America is experiencing is a 'sea-change"
of EXPECTATIONS.....what "we"have come to EXPECT from living in the United States all of our
lives....is now changing rapidly. The NEW normal is NOT going away....it is encompassing more
and more of the population.....and it is here to stay.JMO

I was hoping for an answer to my question that I asked you. You never explained to me how my "outrage" and paying "attention" was bad. Er... or good... er... I don't know. You're logic itself doesn't make any sense.

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Another whopper by the Pinocchio Administration.

Reverend Revelant wrote:

homeagain wrote: Then CEASE the bullsh** about Obamacare.....the paradigm REQUIRED changing (and the '2 for1"
administration....Hillary ATTEMPTED to address this many,many moons ago).....it should have
been addressed decades ago....BUT, the "widening gap" between the moneyed and the "barely
getting by" has INCREASED disproportionately....there are a MYRIAD of reasons for that....off
shore DISplacing of jobs...manufacturing disappearing...the list goes on endlessly....THIS is the
NEW NORMAL (and yes it is quite a bit different than what Americans have come to expect.)...

ABJECT poverty is what you are describing,BUT what America is experiencing is a 'sea-change"
of EXPECTATIONS.....what "we"have come to EXPECT from living in the United States all of our
lives....is now changing rapidly. The NEW normal is NOT going away....it is encompassing more
and more of the population.....and it is here to stay.JMO

I was hoping for an answer to my question that I asked you. You never explained to me how my "outrage" and paying "attention" was bad. Er... or good... er... I don't know. You're logic itself doesn't make any sense.

Let me digress a little bit "Dr Phil" (from PC)....when you were on PC during the Bush year's
were you "Paying attention" THEN....from what I recall, your posts did NOT admonish Bush's
administration and the boatloads of money we were spending on the war machine...AND the
financial fiasco of the Lehman Bros. moment.....do NOT be OBLIQUE with me....the economy
(and subsequent healthcare industry)has suffered RAMIFICATIONS for those two BUSH BUSINESS decisions....isolating one factor (Obamacare) and calling "it" the problem, is myopic
at best, and inane more likely.....OBAMACARE is not the enemy...APATHY is and now we
collectively get to reap what we have sown....MY logic sees the WHOLE of the issue,rather
than a selective segment of the problem....

It's not like our side hasn't done the same thing before:

In May of 2006, just days before the end of open enrollment, President Bush took administrative action towaive “penalty fees for very low-income seniors and people with disabilities who sign up late” and allowed “the same impoverished beneficiaries to sign up for Medicare drug coverage until Dec. 31.”
“In other words, you can apply after May 15th without penalty,” Bush told seniors during an event in Florida. “And that’s important for low-income seniors to understand.”

Just like Obamacare, the launch of Bush’s prescription benefit plan was hampered by technical glitches, setbacks, and mass confusion.

homeagain wrote:

Rick wrote: Everything is working fine RR, and people are loving the ACA so much that Obama is going to let people sign up anytime. Why should anyone pay a premium at all when they can just wait until they need healthcare and only THEN decide to sign up? And even if they do sign up, they get to keep their coverage for 90 days of non payment putting the bill on the doctor for the last 60 days. We are ruled by fools.

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NOTHING has changed...when was the LAST GREAT President...one that led the nation thru
the darkest of times and held this country TOGETHER....certainly no one in RECENT times
(the last 2 or 3 decades).

THIS is the government you get and DESERVE when you are NOT paying attention....no one
has been paying attention for a VERY LONG time....(Keeping up with the Kardasians and Dancingwith the Stars has held the attention of the masses)....THIS is the healthcare system
you DESERVE because "sh** has been rolling down hill" for a VERY LONG TIME...I love the
bumper sticker "IF YOU ARE NOT OUTRAGED YOU HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION:"...

Your (collective) outrage is a day late and a dollar short.....JMO

Who are you talking to anyway? I've been telling these liberal fools what was going to happen since this unread bill was passed. So my outrage isn't a "day late and a dollar short", it started from day one when I did the math. The people you should be lecturing are the silent ones who trust this clown circus to do what they think is best for us... the people who voted based on unobtainable promises and a stack of lies as tall as the health care bill.

Cathy_Lee wrote: It's not like our side hasn't done the same thing before:

In May of 2006, just days before the end of open enrollment, President Bush took administrative action towaive “penalty fees for very low-income seniors and people with disabilities who sign up late” and allowed “the same impoverished beneficiaries to sign up for Medicare drug coverage until Dec. 31.”
“In other words, you can apply after May 15th without penalty,” Bush told seniors during an event in Florida. “And that’s important for low-income seniors to understand.”

Just like Obamacare, the launch of Bush’s prescription benefit plan was hampered by technical glitches, setbacks, and mass confusion.

But in Bush's defense, this was a bipartisan bill that both sides had input on. And this affected a much smaller population base. ACA covers every American, more than 300 million.

Cathy_Lee wrote: It's not like our side hasn't done the same thing before:

In May of 2006, just days before the end of open enrollment, President Bush took administrative action towaive “penalty fees for very low-income seniors and people with disabilities who sign up late” and allowed “the same impoverished beneficiaries to sign up for Medicare drug coverage until Dec. 31.”
“In other words, you can apply after May 15th without penalty,” Bush told seniors during an event in Florida. “And that’s important for low-income seniors to understand.”

Just like Obamacare, the launch of Bush’s prescription benefit plan was hampered by technical glitches, setbacks, and mass confusion.

The next two paragraphs are where there are more of the specifics. And you even almost quoted the first sentence of the next paragraph. Almost.

Like Obamacare, the launch of President George W. Bush’s prescription benefit plan was hampered by technical glitches, setbacks, and mass confusion. As the May 15 deadline for enrollment loomed, a bipartisan group of lawmakers advocacy organizations, and a surprising number of newspaper editorials, urged the administration to extend the enrollment period and protect seniors from the penalties associated with late enrollment.

“In the months leading up to the initiation of the Medicare Part D program, beneficiaries were inundated with information about coverage options, which often caused confusion and frustration among seniors,” former Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA), who introduced legislation to extend the deadline, said. “It is only fair to provide beneficiaries with the time necessary to properly choose an appropriate plan.” The bill attracted bipartisan support and companion legislation was introduced in the Senate.

And this is all from Think Progress.

Raise you hand if you think ANYBODY will get a penalty for not signing up prior to November elections.

And if nobody gets a penalty, can you think of any logical reasons why? I can think of one big one.

Sen. Harry Reid claimed today people aren't signing up for ACA because they can't uunderstand the internet.
They can access midget porn, Amazon, and know how to pay bills online but are too confused to sign up for ACA?
Does he even believe what he spouts anymore?

Say what you want, Obamacare has no static state and if history repeats it never will. It's time to repeal Obamacare and put something back in it's place that is viable, well thought out, and actually works. If a Gubment program can't solve the problem faster, better, or cheaper then it's time to back off and let the commercial market regain control and return the Gubment's role to limited oversight of the healthcare industry. Americans need healthcare programs and insurance that works, provides high quality care, and is actually affordable!!!

In the meanwhile here's a treat for all of you left wing, gun hating, Obamabots:

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