Impeachment proceedings against Trump

23 Oct 2018 14:30 #341 by parkcobound
that does not mean it should be ok. if no laws were broken, great. if they were, they should have to pay the taxes - just like everyone else that breaks a tax law and hides money to avoid paying. everyone should be treated equally. Just because that isn't the way it is, does not mean I shouldn't believe that it should be.

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03 Nov 2018 09:37 #342 by ScienceChic
This is not how this works. The defense (or even former defense) cannot oversee the cops, and only someone guilty as hell would be trying to do this. Yes, it remains to be seen that AG Sessions and/or Deputy AG Rosenstein will be fired or forced to resign, but there's been far too much said negatively by our president about them to turn a blind eye to this very real possibility.

CREW Discovers Previously Undisclosed Ethics Waiver for Solicitor General Noel Francisco
By CREW Staff
November 2, 2018

CREW has uncovered a previously undisclosed ethics waiver that may represent an effort to clear one of the obstacles to Solicitor General Noel Francisco replacing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein as the official overseeing the Russia investigation.

If Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein either resigns or is fired, someone else will have to oversee the Special Counsel investigation. Next in line appears to be Solicitor General Noel Francisco. The problem is that Mr. Francisco has ties to the pending investigation that should preclude his participation.

For one thing, his former law firm, Jones Day, represents the Trump Presidential Campaign in the Special Counsel investigation. Also, Mr. Francisco has a continuing financial relationship with Jones Day, which owes him more than half a million dollars. In addition, he previously appeared before the Justice Department as a member of a “Landing Team” on behalf of the Presidential Transition Team.

The break down: www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/secret...60763459688?v=railb&

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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03 Nov 2018 17:10 #343 by homeagain
Detach, sit back and observe........we are heading into a critical curve(democracy destroyed OR
a massive revolt(constitutional crisis) either way it will change the present paradigm. JMO

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07 Nov 2018 15:19 #344 by ScienceChic
Well, it looks like Trump just started his own Saturday Night Massacre. Firing Sessions and replacing him with a man who's publicly stated the Office of Special Counsel is going too far doesn't bode well for him.

If Rod Rosenstein is forced out this week as well, don't be surprised if sealed indictments start getting unsealed left and right. This will not end well for those guilty of criminal acts.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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07 Nov 2018 15:44 #345 by driver8
Rosenstein has been replaced as the head of the Mueller Investigation by the same Whitaker who is replacing Sessions. Whitaker is also on record saying Hilary should be indicted as well. The guy is a trump rah rah politico, we know where this is going.

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07 Nov 2018 18:02 #346 by homeagain

homeagain wrote: Detach, sit back and observe........we are heading into a critical curve(democracy destroyed OR
a massive revolt(constitutional crisis) either way it will change the present paradigm. JMO


This is the BEGINNING OF the crisis.....it will become far worse and YOU ARE NOW WITNESSING HISTORY IN THE MAKING. Supreme court anyone? (Kavanaugh to the rescue)

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07 Nov 2018 21:08 #347 by ramage
Please explain:

This is the BEGINNING OF the crisis.....it will become far worse and YOU ARE NOW WITNESSING HISTORY IN THE MAKING. Supreme court anyone? (Kavanaugh to the rescue)

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08 Nov 2018 08:49 #348 by parkcobound
Does anyone feel this spinning wildly out of control right now? I expected things to change after the election... I did not expect him to start throwing bombs - but I guess we should all be numb at this point, totally used to constant upheaval ... just business as usual right?

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08 Nov 2018 09:12 #349 by homeagain

ramage wrote: Please explain:

This is the BEGINNING OF the crisis.....it will become far worse and YOU ARE NOW WITNESSING HISTORY IN THE MAKING. Supreme court anyone? (Kavanaugh to the rescue)


NOT a snide question.....How old are U ramage? IF you lived thru NIXON AND WATERGATE, you can vividly visual the trajectory. and for Parkcobound the action do NOT surprise me....with the flip in congress Trump is acting like a cornered badger and he will do ANYTHING to stop the invasion into his taxes and his family circle.....Tump Jr poss indictment.... Mueller is FAR SMARTER THAN TRUMP he knew this was coming and is well ahead ahead of the curve. Trump has been testing the outer limits of everything and so far NO resistance.....UNTIL NOW. jmo

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08 Nov 2018 09:24 #350 by driver8
It's not ramage's age that is causing his lack of understanding, it is his alignment with the post reality right wing party... and the propaganda they ingest on a daily basis. I have a couple of relatives who are 'trump' supporters and they have an absolute belief in anything that comes from trump or fox, or infowars, is reality. Until they return to a fact based reality, there can't be any useful dialog. Civil dialog, intelligent dialog, can only exist when it it exists based on the facts.

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