Impeachment proceedings against Trump

29 Dec 2018 08:35 #381 by ramage
I am having a difficult time understanding your post. What do you mean by taking the micro view" of the scenario which is the tip of the iceberg, but you perceive it as whole...WHEN the complete picture comes into view"?
Also I am not sure as to whether what follows "view" is a continuation of the sentence, a new sentence or a new paragraph?
Finally what do you mean by "you(collectively)?

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29 Dec 2018 08:57 #382 by homeagain
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_(networking_utility)

This is the method of technology that would be proof......Mueller has RECORDS of cell phone activity (now you could surmise that someone else had possession of cohen cell phone and that could be a possibility)....just as a side note, a murder conviction was overturned using this method as proof of innocents.

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29 Dec 2018 09:03 #383 by homeagain

ramage wrote: I am having a difficult time understanding your post. What do you mean by taking the micro view" of the scenario which is the tip of the iceberg, but you perceive it as whole...WHEN the complete picture comes into view"?
Also I am not sure as to whether what follows "view" is a continuation of the sentence, a new sentence or a new paragraph?
Finally what do you mean by "you(collectively)?

C

Collectively would be approx. 1/3 of the nation....(certainly a minority in anyone's book).....the fore mention group does NOT detach and see the overview of what is occurring..another phrase would be TUNNEL VISION.jmo

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18 Jan 2019 08:53 #384 by homeagain
The emerging issues (yet to be verified, BUT pretty sure Mueller has the FACTS) are exposing an extreme example of NIXON'S demise. The parallels are becoming quite clear and when Buzzfeed's reporting is deemed VALID...….Mueller would be pressed to publish his findings sooner rather than later...…..I will wait for confirmation, but it does NOT bode well for
the king (a dethroning is in the making)jmo

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18 Jan 2019 10:13 #385 by ScienceChic
I doubt there's anything in the media coming out that would affect Mueller's progress or plans to publish the findings of the investigation (supposedly the Washington Post has been sitting on an article for the past year at the request of the SCO, we shall see if that comes to pass). It does seem that it is coming closer to an end, with Mattis leaving and Rosenstein announcing he would leave once the new AG was confirmed.

Recently published:
F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia
By Adam Goldman, Michael S. Schmidt and Nicholas Fandos
Jan. 11, 2019

WASHINGTON — In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president’s behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.

The inquiry carried explosive implications. Counterintelligence investigators had to consider whether the president’s own actions constituted a possible threat to national security. Agents also sought to determine whether Mr. Trump was knowingly working for Russia or had unwittingly fallen under Moscow’s influence.

The investigation the F.B.I. opened into Mr. Trump also had a criminal aspect, which has long been publicly known: whether his firing of Mr. Comey constituted obstruction of justice.


Mueller: Manafort worked behind scenes to stock Trump administration
By DARREN SAMUELSOHN 01/15/2019 07:12 PM EST

Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, was working through mystery intermediaries in January 2017 to get people appointed in President Donald Trump’s new administration, according to a court filing released Tuesday.

According to Gates, Manafort continued speaking with the unidentified people — their names are redacted in the court filing submitted by Mueller’s prosecutors — through about February 2018, several months after the longtime GOP operative had first been indicted in the special counsel’s Russia inquiry on charges of money laundering, making false statements and other crimes.

Court filing: www.politico.com/f/?id=00000168-53a4-d4bd-affb-ffedb71b0001

Impeach Donald Trump
Starting the process will rein in a president who is undermining American ideals—and bring the debate about his fitness for office into Congress, where it belongs.
Yoni Appelbaum, The Atlantic
March 2019 Issue

On January 20, 2017, Donald Trump stood on the steps of the Capitol, raised his right hand, and solemnly swore to faithfully execute the office of president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. He has not kept that promise.

Instead, he has mounted a concerted challenge to the separation of powers, to the rule of law, and to the civil liberties enshrined in our founding documents. He has purposefully inflamed America’s divisions. He has set himself against the American idea, the principle that all of us—of every race, gender, and creed—are created equal.

This is not a partisan judgment. Many of the president’s fiercest critics have emerged from within his own party. Even officials and observers who support his policies are appalled by his pronouncements, and those who have the most firsthand experience of governance are also the most alarmed by how Trump is governing.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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18 Jan 2019 10:28 #386 by ScienceChic
Two more:
Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
By Greg Miller
January 13, 2019

President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.

The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries.

As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.


Donald Trump, the Kremlin and the ghost of Alger Hiss
The anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ ought to prepare itself for disappointment, since the unclassified version of the Mueller report will be lacking in detail
John R. Schindler

Everyone in the nation’s capital is waiting for the report to be issued by Robert S. Mueller, III and his Special Counsel investigation, reportedly by the spring. Some version of that report will reach the public, eventually, no matter how mightily the Trump administration tries to prevent its release.

That said, the anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ ought to prepare itself for disappointment, since the unclassified version of the Mueller report they will someday see is destined to be lacking in detail. We already know that the Special Counsel inquiry possesses highly classified intelligence regarding Trump’s Moscow connections; the contents are reported to be devastating to the president and his retinue.

However, such top-secret-plus intelligence will never wind up in the unclassified version of Mueller’s report due to the need to protect classified sources and methods.

These information gaps will give President Trump maneuver room to keep lying. We know that bald-faced dishonesty about one’s secret Kremlin’s ties, evidence be damned, is an effective strategy, at least among true-believing members of one’s political tribe. It’s worked before, and it was the Left which pioneered this seedy modus operandi.


Oh, and lest you think that this won't affect the Democratic party:
Democrats Have Their Own Kremlin Influence Problem, Starting with Al Gore and Maxine Waters
By John R. Schindler • 11/20/18 2:18pm

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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18 Jan 2019 18:30 #387 by FredHayek

homeagain wrote: The emerging issues (yet to be verified, BUT pretty sure Mueller has the FACTS) are exposing an extreme example of NIXON'S demise. The parallels are becoming quite clear and when Buzzfeed's reporting is deemed VALID...….Mueller would be pressed to publish his findings sooner rather than later...…..I will wait for confirmation, but it does NOT bode well for
the king (a dethroning is in the making)jmo

Mueller has rejected the Buzzfeed story. The story had been shopped around, according to Roman Farrow, and Buzzfeed was the only one who agreed to publish it.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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18 Jan 2019 19:58 #388 by homeagain

FredHayek wrote:

homeagain wrote: The emerging issues (yet to be verified, BUT pretty sure Mueller has the FACTS) are exposing an extreme example of NIXON'S demise. The parallels are becoming quite clear and when Buzzfeed's reporting is deemed VALID...….Mueller would be pressed to publish his findings sooner rather than later...…..I will wait for confirmation, but it does NOT bode well for
the king (a dethroning is in the making)jmo

Mueller has rejected the Buzzfeed story. The story had been shopped around, according to Roman Farrow, and Buzzfeed was the only one who agreed to publish it.


SORRY Fred…..your analysis is not UPDATED. Chuck Rosenberg just explained the Mueller charge (Cohen's sentencing and statements.....he indicated that the GENERAL story of Buzzfeed is CORRECT, just that some aspect of the story needs clarification and Buzzfeed is requesting that. Mueller is not going to expose his case YET, thus the statement from Special Council.

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24 Jan 2019 16:13 #389 by ramage
Let us assume that the President is impeached by the House and it is affirmed by the Senate. You now have President Pence, a born again Christian in the White House. What say you now?

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24 Jan 2019 16:26 #390 by homeagain

ramage wrote: Let us assume that the President is impeached by the House and it is affirmed by the Senate. You now have President Pence, a born again Christian in the White House. What say you now?


We are STILL fubared…….not by an egocentric individual,but rather by a religious zealot.jmo

I observed his smug and SILENT demeanor during the famous "I would be proud to shutdown the government" meeting. My immediate thought was he was just bidding his time (patiently)UNTIL Trump was no longer in the picture....almost basking in the promise of the presidency thru default. jmo

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