Impeachment proceedings against Trump

10 Mar 2019 08:22 #411 by Pony Soldier
What happens when the bulk of evidence in most criminal investigations is found to be fraudulent? The case is tossed and the investigators are reprimanded. In this case, it seems to be the opposite. There have been so many irregularities and illegalities in this investigation, the investigators should be in prison. DUAL JUSTICE SYSTEM!

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10 Mar 2019 08:53 #412 by Brandon

towermonkey wrote: What happens when the bulk of evidence in most criminal investigations is found to be fraudulent?


What fantasy world did this happen in?

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10 Mar 2019 15:52 #413 by ramage
SC,
You miss the point. Who are the ORIGINAL SOURCES of the proffered material? That is the point.
Otherwise you are spreading gossip, shielding it be citing the gossiper.

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10 Mar 2019 16:46 #414 by homeagain
I believe there will be MORE indictments before the report is released......Mueller is meticulous and by the book.....IF you want a rock solid case that can NOT be ignored and you want the charges to be irrefutable, timing is not a factor....jmo.....we are ALL impatient to move thru this
fubar, but TRUTH is the ultimate goal. JMO...March/April timeframe for the TRUTH to emerge.

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10 Mar 2019 17:49 #415 by ScienceChic
ramage, journalists use anonymous sources all the time. I cite something that isn't from MSM, because everyone constantly bitches about how bad the MSM is, and now an independent source isn't good enough either? Like I said, you are welcome to remain skeptical until the SCO's report comes out. Me, I've spent a lot of time vetting citizen journalists, former NSA/FBI/CIA sources over the past 2 years by watching what they claim and keeping tabs on whether their claims came true or not, and I trust this report because of that attention I've paid. I'm not asking you to trust me, I'm simply passing along what I see and feel confident in sharing. If Cockburn is wrong, I am more than willing to eat crow and admit I'm wrong, and in the meantime we can discuss anything you want pertaining to this topic.

After nearly 2 years (actually 3 years since the original investigation began at the FBI), do you honestly think that they've found nothing? Trump has refused to release his tax returns. There are 17 investigations + into him and organizations associated with him. His record on spewing lies is unprecedented for his position.

The most recent scandal being this:
John Schindler Verified account @20committee 9 hours ago

Retweeted Mark Stokes
Trump & Friends' Chinese tug-shop problem isn't a sex scandal -- it's a full-blown foreign espionage and illegal influence scandal. Nice way to let PRC spies into Mar-A-Lago, Donnie! #WINNING

David Rothkopf Verified account @djrothkopf Mar 9

If the president is letting a Chinese madam sell access at Mar-a-Lago to Chinese business people while his friends are getting serviced at businesses she started, he is exposing himself and the country to massive blackmail risk. Surely the IC and FBI are aware of this.
Robert Hunt @ConsultCannaRob Mar 9
Replying to @djrothkopf
Everyone is being too nice about this. It was not a "prostitution ring" and she was not a "madam".

These were sex slaves. They had no choice. They weren't earning the money. They lived at the facility.

She is a slave owner. A sex slave owner. That was the report in this case.

Molly McKew Verified account @MollyMcKew Mar 9

If half the supporters of a Dem POTUS + party leadership had been photographed mingling with a sex trafficker who was using the sex trafficking to befriend the rich & famous then sell access to them to foreigners, I feel like it would be a scandal?

Massage parlor magnate helped steer Chinese to Trump NYC fundraiser, attendee says
BY NICHOLAS NEHAMAS, CAITLIN OSTROFF, AND SARAH BLASKEY, Miami Herald
MARCH 09, 2019

A Chinese-American massage-parlor entrepreneur arranged for a group of Chinese business executives to attend a paid fundraiser for President Donald Trump in New York City at the end of 2017, according to a source who was present at the event.

Cindy Yang, whose family owns a chain of South Florida day spas where prostitution is said to have taken place, also runs a Florida-based consulting business called GY US Investments that promises to introduce Chinese investors into the president’s orbit.


A Florida Massage Parlor Owner Has Been Selling Chinese Execs Access to Trump at Mar-a-Lago
The strange, swampy saga of Trump donor Li Yang.
DAVID CORN, DAN FRIEDMAN AND DANIEL SCHULMAN
MARCH 9, 2019

The latest Trump political donor to draw controversy is Li Yang, a 45-year-old Florida entrepreneur from China who founded a chain of spas and massage parlors that included the one where New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft was recently busted for soliciting prostitution. She made the news this week when the Miami Herald reported that last month she had attended a Super Bowl viewing party at Donald Trump’s West Palm Beach golf club and had snapped a selfie with the president during the event.

Yang, who goes by Cindy, and her husband, Zubin Gong, started GY US Investments LLC in 2017. The company describes itself on its website, which is mostly in Chinese, as an “international business consulting firm that provides public relations services to assist businesses in America to establish and expand their brand image in the modern Chinese marketplace.” But the firm notes that its services also address clients looking to make high-level connections in the United States. On a page displaying a photo of Mar-a-Lago, Yang’s company says its “activities for clients” have included providing them “the opportunity to interact with the president, the [American] Minister of Commerce and other political figures.” The company boasts it has “arranged taking photos with the President” and suggests it can set up a “White House and Capitol Hill Dinner.” (The same day the Herald story about Yang broke, the website stopped functioning.)


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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10 Mar 2019 19:13 #416 by ramage
", journalists use anonymous sources all the time. " An excuse not an answer.

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11 Mar 2019 15:03 #417 by FredHayek
Nancy Pelosi does not want to impeach President Trump. Says it will be a waste of time. Makes a certain amount of sense. He has been pretty ineffective lately. Can't even get complete funding for his Wall. And by the time all the evidence is collected and gets put before the legislature, he will have lost the 2020 campaign. Reminds me of a story about British intelligence during WWII. At the beginning of the war, they tried to kill Hitler but without success. But they abandoned these plans later on because Hitler was doing more damage than good to the German war effort.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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11 Mar 2019 15:05 #418 by FredHayek
Speaker Pelosi is going to be viciously attacked for her anti-impeachment commen comments from the Left, especially the young socialist wing of the party.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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11 Mar 2019 15:50 #419 by ScienceChic
The young representatives would be wise to shut the hell up and learn from an experienced statesman; Pelosi is right to say what she said in the position that she is in. Impeachment should commence when there is sufficient evidence that it's proper to do so, and not before - the SCO is conducting an investigation into whether crimes were committed and about upholding the rule of law, not a witch hunt. The Democrats in Congress should be focusing on what's in their purview as a Constitutional responsibility - acting as a check and balance on the executive branch and conducting investigations into the WH.

House Judiciary Committee Document Requests 3.4.19

Why haven't they requested his tax returns yet?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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11 Mar 2019 18:44 #420 by homeagain

FredHayek wrote: Nancy Pelosi does not want to impeach President Trump. Says it will be a waste of time. Makes a certain amount of sense. He has been pretty ineffective lately. Can't even get complete funding for his Wall. And by the time all the evidence is collected and gets put before the legislature, he will have lost the 2020 campaign. Reminds me of a story about British intelligence during WWII. At the beginning of the war, they tried to kill Hitler but without success. But they abandoned these plans later on because Hitler was doing more damage than good to the German war effort.


bolded.....UNTIL there is irrefutable and rock solid reason. Which is a smart move.....WHY
telegraph your strategy too early? The topic is impeachment and he WILL be brought up on charges, as the most corrupt and conniving leader of all time.....wait for it. Q2/3 countdown.

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