Impeachment proceedings against Trump

26 Jul 2018 13:52 #301 by driver8
Also, let us not forget there were at LEAST 5 other countries whose SigInt teams fed intel to the CIA/FBI/NSC around the same time. They had picked up members of trumps campaign staff while monitoring russian comms and grew increasingly distressed at what they were hearing. At some point all of this factual information will come out and I hope there are folks who decide to get re-acquainted fact based reality.

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26 Jul 2018 19:55 #302 by Blazer Bob

ScienceChic wrote: ...
Also, the Steele Dossier was initially paid for by Republicans trying to dig up dirt on fellow candidates. When Trump was chosen as the nominee, that's when Clinton and the DNC picked it up....


You have said that before. Repeating it does not add any validity. The fact that is was r opo research before it was d opo research is just a theydoittoism. . In other words it is a pointless talking point.

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26 Jul 2018 20:59 #303 by ScienceChic
What about the part that the Steele Dossier wasn't used as the basis for starting the investigation into the Trump campaign?

In breaking news:
Cohen claims Trump knew in advance of 2016 Trump Tower meeting
By Jim Sciutto, Carl Bernstein and Marshall Cohen, CNN
Updated 9:36 PM ET, Thu July 26, 2018

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, claims that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton, sources with knowledge tell CNN. Cohen is willing to make that assertion to special counsel Robert Mueller, the sources said.

Cohen's claim would contradict repeated denials by Trump, Donald Trump Jr., their lawyers and other administration officials who have said that the President knew nothing about the Trump Tower meeting until he was approached about it by The New York Times in July 2017.

Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.

If Cohen flips, and testifies that Trump lied about the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians, and/or all the other evidence they pulled from his residence shows illegal activities (e.g. paying off women with whom he had affairs with campaign funds for example), Trump is finished.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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26 Jul 2018 21:19 - 26 Jul 2018 21:20 #304 by Blazer Bob
If I had a nickel for every unnamed source that CNN has used to attack Trump I would be as rich as he is. I hear that they are going to investigate his stools for obstruction next.

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What a long fall from "just wait you deplorable idiots, there will be proof of treasonous collusion with Russia" to "what if I told you that a man named Donald Trump uses Twitter and wait for it -- WAIT FOR IT -- we're going to claim that's a crime."
12:17 PM · Jul 26, 2018

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27 Jul 2018 08:40 #305 by Brandon

Blazer Bob wrote: If I had a nickel for every unnamed source that CNN has used to attack Trump I would be as rich as he is.


Michael Cohen isn't an unnamed source.

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27 Jul 2018 09:35 #306 by ScienceChic
USA Today: Michael Cohen says Trump knew, approved of meeting with Russians to get dirt on Clinton: reports
July 26

The Atlantic: Michael Cohen's Astonishing Claim About the Trump Tower Meeting
July 26

Mass Live: Michael Cohen claims Trump approved of Trump Tower meeting with Russians
July 26

FOX: Trump disputes Cohen claim he knew of Trump Tower meeting
July 27

ABC News: President denies knowing about Trump Tower meeting, despite Michael Cohen's claim
July 27


Unconfirmed as of yet, but putting it here so you can check in the future:
Exclusive: Donald Trump Called into a Trump Tower Russian Spy Meeting
Posted by patribotics
July 15, 2017

Sources with links to the intelligence community and the justice department report that Donald Trump himself is on tape calling in to a meeting at Trump Tower, where collusion with Russians was discussed.

Sources could not confirm, however, that the meeting where collusion in the election was discussed was the one at which his son, Donald J Trump Jr, recently admitted to conspiring with Russians to hack the election.

They pointed out that there was more than one meeting at Trump Tower where attacking the integrity of the US election was discussed by Trump campaign officials and representatives of the Russian government.

The source of the recording of Mr. Trump was his campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s campaign chairman. His phone had been legally hacked by the United States intelligence community under an SS7 exploit and turned into a ‘hot mike’ where he was, unbeknownst to him, recording all those with whom he was speaking.


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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01 Aug 2018 23:31 - 01 Aug 2018 23:45 #307 by ScienceChic
Mueller Has Evidence Trump Obstructed Justice
July 31, 2018 at 1:17 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

Murray Waas: “Previously undisclosed evidence in the possession of Special Counsel Robert Mueller — including highly confidential White House records and testimony by some of President Trump’s own top aides — provides some of the strongest evidence to date implicating the president of the United States in an obstruction of justice.”

“Several people who have reviewed a portion of this evidence say that, based on what they know, they believe it is now all but inevitable that the special counsel will complete a confidential report presenting evidence that President Trump violated the law."


Special counsel Mueller wants to ask Trump about obstruction of justice: Sources
By JOHN SANTUCCI
Aug 1, 2018

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office wants to ask President Donald Trump about obstruction of justice, sources close to the White House tell ABC News. According to sources, the president learned within the last day that the special counsel will limit the scope of questioning and would like to ask questions both orally and written for the President to respond to.

*Note: those are White House sources so take that with a huge grain of salt. No comment by Special Counsel when asked about this.

Three Tweets by Rep Adam Schiff:

Adam Schiff
‏Verified account @RepAdamSchiff
Jul 26

If Trump knew about the June 9 meeting, this is the chronology:

The Russians offered Trump help

Trump approved getting Russian help

The Russians delivered help

Trump dictated a false statement about the true purpose of the meeting

Trump covered up his own role

Adam Schiff
‏Verified account @RepAdamSchiff
Jul 31

The evolution of Trump on Russia:

No meetings with any Russians.

Ok, lots of low level meetings.

Ok, high level meetings too, but about adoptions.

Ok, not about adoptions, but Trump didn’t know.

Ok, maybe he did, but no crime.

Next?

Ok, it’s a crime. Pardons for everyone!


When someone keeps moving the goal posts and changing their story, protesting and bleating about an investigation being "unfair", and been caught lying (Mueller has no conflict of interest, and this investigation isn't being run by "17 angry Democrats"), they have something to hide and are not to be trusted.

So, what's your dealbreaker to stop supporting this president?

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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03 Aug 2018 10:26 #308 by FredHayek
LOL, liberals need to get a "Donald Trump Lives Here" tattooed on their forehead. Their obsession about the man is both hilarious and sad. Calm down. 500 days have passed. Same sex unions are still legal, the border is being maintained, the stock market is humming. Unemployment is at record lows. Abortion is still legal, Planned Parenthood is still being funded by the federal government. ACA is still the law. Put Chicken Little back in her coop. Stop letting yourself be controlled by the media's rage creating machine.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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06 Aug 2018 06:40 #309 by Brandon

FredHayek wrote: LOL, liberals need to get a "Donald Trump Lives Here" tattooed on their forehead. Their obsession about the man is both hilarious and sad. Calm down. 500 days have passed. Same sex unions are still legal, the border is being maintained, the stock market is humming. Unemployment is at record lows. Abortion is still legal, Planned Parenthood is still being funded by the federal government. ACA is still the law. Put Chicken Little back in her coop. Stop letting yourself be controlled by the media's rage creating machine.


What an utterly moronic post. You think that posting in a political forum about the president's probable conspiracy with a hostile foreign power is evidence of "obsession" and "rage?"

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06 Aug 2018 06:44 - 06 Aug 2018 07:13 #310 by driver8

Brandon wrote:

FredHayek wrote: LOL, liberals need to get a "Donald Trump Lives Here" tattooed on their forehead. Their obsession about the man is both hilarious and sad. Calm down. 500 days have passed. Same sex unions are still legal, the border is being maintained, the stock market is humming. Unemployment is at record lows. Abortion is still legal, Planned Parenthood is still being funded by the federal government. ACA is still the law. Put Chicken Little back in her coop. Stop letting yourself be controlled by the media's rage creating machine.


What an utterly moronic post. You think that posting in a political forum about the president's probable conspiracy with a hostile foreign power is evidence of "obsession" and "rage?"


It appears that Fred has chosen party over country, that is where the R's are today. I bet there were a lot of these t-shirts sold in Park County,

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