Impeachment proceedings against Trump

20 Jul 2018 10:29 #281 by Brandon

Brandon wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Trump...just forced NATO to get stronger.


Explain.


How did Trump force NATO to get stronger?

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23 Jul 2018 07:29 #282 by Brandon
Fred, are you familiar with the term duckspeak? From the book 1984?

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23 Jul 2018 07:30 #283 by FredHayek
NATO had been underfunding their militaries for decades. After the NATO summit, they pledged to spend more on military spending.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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23 Jul 2018 10:01 #284 by hillfarmer
That is partially true and partially a right wing talking point. NATO had underfunded spending during the period they thought Russia was moving towards a more peaceful mien. Once Russian intentions become apparent they began moving towards the two percent of budget goal. The misleading part of the statement is that NATO moved towards significantly more investment as a result of the summit (and the antics of our glorious leader.) In fact they simply reiterated that they would continue moving towards the 2% goal. www.factcheck.org/2018/07/trumps-false-claims-at-nato/

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23 Jul 2018 12:54 #285 by Brandon
One must also understand that NATO is an alliance meant to stop Russian expansion. For the president to insult our NATO allies, question the purpose of the alliance, and then show himself to be Putin's puppet does the exact opposite of making NATO stronger.

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23 Jul 2018 20:46 #286 by Blazer Bob
Is he the puppet or the puppeteer?

Netanyahu Says Putin Agreed to Restrain Iran in Syria www.nytimes.com/2018/07/12/world/middlee...putin-netanyahu.html

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24 Jul 2018 08:00 - 24 Jul 2018 08:23 #287 by Brandon
Puppet. I'm way more concerned about our own elections than Syria.

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24 Jul 2018 09:01 #288 by ramage
Obama, press conference, October 18, 2016 : "But the larger point that I want to emphasize here is that there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past, or that there are instances in which that will happen this time. And so I’d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."

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24 Jul 2018 12:53 - 24 Jul 2018 12:54 #289 by Brandon
The above quote seems to be about rigging an election, not meddling in it. There's a very obvious difference between the two.

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24 Jul 2018 14:34 #290 by ramage
Pray tell what is the obvious difference. Is it that rigging is a much more serious charge than meddling?

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