Impeachment proceedings against Trump

14 Jun 2018 17:26 #251 by Rick
Inspector general blasts Comey and also says others at FBI showed ‘willingness to take official action’ to hurt Trump

Perhaps the most damaging revelation in the report is a previously unreported text message in which Strzok, a key investigator on both the Clinton email case and the investigation of Russia and the Trump campaign, assured an FBI lawyer in August 2016 that “we’ll stop” Trump from making it to the White House.


It's pretty sad that it took this long to pry this stuff out of the FBI. Of course the worthless TV media will prevent most of this from hitting the eyes of it's faithful sheep.

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-se...m_term=.0a558cf5dec7

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15 Jun 2018 09:02 #252 by ScienceChic
A question for you Rick: did you read the actual report and/or the full article you cited?

Another quote from it:

Horowitz also concluded that there was no evidence that political bias infected Comey’s thinking, even as he criticized individual steps Comey took. The report, for example, called Comey’s July 2016 public recommendation that Clinton not be charged an “extraordinary and insubordinate” move, because Comey did not even tell then-Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch what he was about to do. But it added, “We found no evidence that Comey’s statement was the result of bias or an effort to influence the election.


Rather than railing on "worthless TV media" and "faithful sheep", why not read the report for yourself and tell us what you think about it? I am curious as to your personal opinion after examining the evidence for yourself.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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15 Jun 2018 10:02 #253 by ScienceChic
Meanwhile...

New York Attorney General Verified account @NewYorkStateAG 1 day ago

We are suing the Donald J. Trump Foundation and its directors @realDonaldTrump, Donald J. Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump for extensive and persistent violations of state and federal law. on.ny.gov/2JGcVag


Press Release (reminder that press releases can be posted in their entirety)
Attorney General Underwood Announces Lawsuit Against Donald J. Trump Foundation And Its Board Of Directors For Extensive And Persistent Violations Of State And Federal Law Lawsuit Seeks Restitution of $2.8 Million Plus Penalties

AG’s Office Sends Referral Letters to Internal Revenue Service and Federal Election Commission for Further Investigation and Legal Action

In Light Of Misconduct And Total Lack of Oversight, Lawsuit Seeks To Dissolve Donald J. Trump Foundation and Bar Donald J. Trump And Members Of Trump Foundation’s Board Of Directors From Serving On Board Of Any Other New York Charity

NEW YORK - Attorney General Barbara D. Underwood today announced a lawsuit against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, and its directors, Donald J. Trump (“Mr. Trump”), Donald J. Trump, Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump. The petition filed today alleges a pattern of persistent illegal conduct, occurring over more than a decade, that includes extensive unlawful political coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing transactions to benefit Mr. Trump’s personal and business interests, and violations of basic legal obligations for non-profit foundations. The Attorney General initiated a special proceeding to dissolve the Trump Foundation under court supervision and obtain restitution of $2.8 million and additional penalties. The AG’s lawsuit also seeks a ban from future service as a director of a New York not-for-profit of 10 years for Mr. Trump and one year for each of the Foundation’s other board members, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump. The Attorney General also sent referral letters today to the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Election Commission, identifying possible violations of federal law for further investigation and legal action by those federal agencies.

As alleged in the petition, Mr. Trump used the Trump Foundation’s charitable assets to pay off his legal obligations, to promote Trump hotels and other businesses, and to purchase personal items. In addition, at Mr. Trump’s behest, the Trump Foundation illegally provided extensive support to his 2016 presidential campaign by using the Trump Foundation’s name and funds it raised from the public to promote his campaign for presidency, including in the days before the Iowa nominating caucuses.

“As our investigation reveals, the Trump Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality,” said Attorney General Underwood. “This is not how private foundations should function and my office intends to hold the Foundation and its directors accountable for its misuse of charitable assets.”

The Attorney General’s investigation found that Trump Foundation raised in excess of $2.8 million in a manner designed to influence the 2016 presidential election at the direction and under the control of senior leadership of the Trump presidential campaign. The Foundation raised the funds from the public at the nationally televised fundraiser Mr. Trump held in lieu of participating in the presidential primary debate in Des Moines, Iowa, on January 28, 2016. In violation of state and federal law, senior Trump campaign staff, including Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski, dictated the timing, amounts, and recipients of grants by the Foundation to non-profits, as evidenced by communications between Campaign staff and Foundation representatives:

At least five $100,000 grants were made to groups in Iowa in the days immediately before the February 1, 2016 Iowa caucuses.

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The Trump Foundation also entered into at least five self-dealing transactions that were unlawful because they benefitted Mr. Trump or businesses he controls. These include a $100,000 payment to settle legal claims against Mr. Trump’s Mar-A-Lago resort; a $158,000 payment to settle legal claims against his Trump National Golf Club in 2008 from a hole-in-one tournament; and a $10,000 payment at a charity auction to purchase a painting of Mr. Trump that was displayed at the Trump National Doral in Miami. Following commencement of the Attorney General’s investigation, the Foundation paid excise taxes on three of the transactions and Mr. Trump restored funds for the transactions to the Foundation, but the Foundation has not paid excise taxes on the Mar-A-Lago or Trump National Golf Club transactions.

As described in the Attorney General’s petition, none of the Foundation’s expenditures or activities were approved by its Board of Directors. The investigation found that the Board existed in name only: it did not meet after 1999; it did not set policy or criteria for choosing grant recipients; and it did not approve of any grants. Mr. Trump alone made all decisions related to the Foundation.

The Attorney General’s lawsuit seeks an order finding that the Foundation’s directors breached their fiduciary duties requiring them to make restitution for the harm that resulted, requiring Mr. Trump to reimburse the Foundation for its self-dealing transactions and to pay penalties in an amount up to double the benefit he obtained from the use of Foundation funds for his campaign, enjoining Mr. Trump from service for a period of ten years as a director, officer, or trustee of a not-for-profit organization incorporated in or authorized to conduct business in the State of New York, and enjoining the other directors from such service for one year (or, in the case of the other directors, until he or she receives proper training on fiduciary service). To ensure that the Foundation's remaining assets are disbursed in accordance with state and federal law, the lawsuit seeks a court order directing the dissolution of the Foundation under the oversight of the Attorney General's Charities Bureau.

In addition to filing its dissolution petition, the Office of the Attorney General sent referral letters to the Federal Election Commission and the Internal Revenue Service. These letters set forth in specific detail the underlying facts that have led the Attorney General to conclude that additional investigation and potential further legal action by these federal authorities are warranted.

This case is being handled by Matthew Colangelo, Executive Deputy Attorney General, James Sheehan, Chief of the Charities Bureau, Laura Wood, Senior Advisor and Special Counsel, Assistant Attorney General Yael Fuchs, Co-Chief of the Enforcement Section of the Charities Bureau, and Assistant Attorneys General Steven Shiffman and Peggy Farber of the Charities Bureau. This matter is being overseen by Chief Deputy Alvin Bragg and Chief of Staff and Deputy Attorney General Brian Mahanna.

Additional documentation linked at: ag.ny.gov/press-release/attorney-general...p-foundation-and-its


"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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15 Jun 2018 11:17 #254 by MountainRoadCrew
Some posts have been split out and moved here: mymountaintown.com/forum/29-the-ring/331...s-against-trump-ring

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20 Jun 2018 18:07 - 20 Jun 2018 18:09 #256 by Rick
If he's not lying or making false statements, does this matter to you? It's less than 10 minutes long but I'm focused specifically on 5:30 and after. Which part is not true or irrelevant to the investigation?

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It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

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22 Jun 2018 09:08 #257 by Rick

Rick wrote: If he's not lying or making false statements, does this matter to you? It's less than 10 minutes long but I'm focused specifically on 5:30 and after. Which part is not true or irrelevant to the investigation?

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So no dispute about what this man is saying? Interesting.

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

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16 Jul 2018 11:46 #258 by ScienceChic
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him in so far as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.”
President Theodore Roosevelt, 1918

"Of one man in especial, beyond anyone else, the citizens of a republic should beware, and that is of the man who appeals to them to support him on the ground that he is hostile to other citizens of the republic, that he will secure for those who elect him, in one shape or another, profit at the expense of other citizens of the republic. It makes no difference whether he appeals to class hatred or class interest, to religious or anti-religious prejudice. The man who makes such an appeal should always be presumed to make it for the sake of furthering his own interest."
THEODORE ROOSEVELT, Address delivered at the Sorbonne, Paris, Apr. 23, 1910

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
Article III, Section III of the Constitution:

Traitors to the United States of America deserve what's coming to them.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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16 Jul 2018 12:35 #259 by hillfarmer
The Helsinki summit is more than ample evidence of collusion between Trump and Putin. Trump calls Europe a Foe and dismisses Russian meddling in our elections. Trump’s mendacity is obvious to anyone not fooled by the chaos of his con job.

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16 Jul 2018 12:49 #260 by parkcobound
I'm still reading through all of the stories online, but the main comments he made do not look good so far. I think we can always do better where security and cyber security are concerned, but to say we (the US) is at fault because Russia decided to interfere ? and while many can find a reason to distrust the FBI, they are not the only agency that has determined the Russians were meddling in the election. The Senate Intelligence Committee also found the same thing. No one wants Trump to start a war with Russia over this, but to say he believes what Putin says? Over all of our intelligence agencies - I just do not understand that thought process. I want to think he is telling Putin what he wants to hear - but I am seriously afraid that is just not the case. Where is this going to end? and how are we ever going to stop unfriendly countries from doing things like this, if we cannot face what happened and FIX the problem!???

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