Hydroxychloroquine WILL Save US

koobookie wrote:

ramage wrote: Koobookie,
You have been hoisted with your own petard. Much like CNN you neglected to look at the material yourself. Blazer Bob has laid out what President Trump's "investment" is and what vehicle made it, i.e. a mutual fund.
The CNN reference is to the fact that CNN will not carry the Corona Virus Task Force's presentations and as such, asks questions of guests that have already been answered hours before at the briefing.

I have not made the claim that he is promoting this for his own gain, I have merely raised the question.

The answer you are looking for yet refuse to accept is pretty simple, the drug works,PERIOD. The president, your King, believes that the drug will save lives. Why is that so hard for you to understand? There’s a lot of good evidence across the globe that it helps, at the very least. The fact that your worthless news sources have mocked him for it isn’t surprising, they are just like you.

homeagain wrote: From my pov....no one really knows.....IT'S 52 CARD P.U.
I am all for voluntary HUMAN guinea pigs, I for one would NOT,but admire those who would.

REALLY, I think this says it all.....it is not approved by the FDA for this use,however,IF the human
guinea pig is playing the numbers and is WILLING to take a card.....go for it....it is a elective choice.

Rick wrote: The answer you are looking for yet refuse to accept is pretty simple, the drug works,PERIOD. The president, your King, believes that the drug will save lives. Why is that so hard for you to understand? There’s a lot of good evidence across the globe that it helps, at the very least. The fact that your worthless news sources have mocked him for it isn’t surprising, they are just like you.

Actually, Rick, the jury is still out on whether the drug works.

time.com/5808894/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus/

The excitement over the combination’s potential began with a small French study of people with the novel coronavirus. In those patients, the load of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, in their blood dropped after they received the medications, although their clinical symptoms didn’t change much. In another study of about 100 patients in China, doctors also reported some success in using the drug duo to reduce the viral load in patients.

“In general if hydroxychloroquine really, really worked, and it was a magic drug for COVID-19, we would know it by now,” says Dr. David Sullivan, professor of microbiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and an infectious disease physician at the university’s malaria research institute. “Right now we have no clinical evidence that it works.”

It's difficult for me to believe anything out of Trump's mouth, since he lies and contradicts himself so often.

Simple question to all participants in this blog:

If you are diagnosed with Covid-19 by laboratory test and clinical symptoms, would you accept Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin if offered to you by your physician?

It would be dependent on how mass critical I was.....NO, if symptoms were raging, (remember
I have MOSLT AND DNI, DNR in place) ...I need odds, 50-50 or less....60/40 or better....I do not
have a mindset that believes LIFE AT ANY COST.....quality vs. quantity...what are ALL the side effects,describe them to me in detail...THEN I would make a choice. AGAIN QUALITY VS. QUANITY is the deciding factor.

I appreciate your candor.

ramage wrote: Simple question to all participants in this blog:

If you are diagnosed with Covid-19 by laboratory test and clinical symptoms, would you accept Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin if offered to you by your physician?

Agree with HA. If I had little trouble breathing, I would not take HQ/A. But I would take it before going on a ventilator. It appears to not be a cure so much as giving you time for your own body to attack the Coronavirus.

Unfortunately, it does not come down to HCQ/AZ versus being intubated and placed on a ventilator. All medications that are given in the face of an infectious disease are most effective the earlier they are administered. When one reaches the state where they require intubation and mechanical ventilation, i.e. hypoxia, hypercapnia, V/Q mismatch, the endotracheal tube needs to be inserted immediately or death will quickly ensue. To be sure HCQ/AZ is administered to these patients but the horse has left the barn.

WSJ.com 4/10/20:
Letters to the Editor, author, Binh Ngo, M.D.

"In 1988, with massive protests from AIDS patients against slow FDA action, Dr. Fauci pioneered the plan of the parallel track: “There was a concept that if you have a clinical trial, it has to be sacrosanct, with very rigid criteria. People who were infected, who had no other possibility of therapy, were objecting that there were a lot of rigid rules that said they could not get into the clinical trial, and therefore could not have access to perhaps the only drug that might prolong their life. Their argument was, Let us take the chance. Let us sign that we appreciate we may be taking a drug that has some unproven toxicities, but we know, from looking around at all our friends, that in fact we’re going to die if we don’t get these drugs.” Today, more than 40 HIV drugs permit millions of affected people to live out normal lives."

homeagain wrote:

homeagain wrote: From my pov....no one really knows.....IT'S 52 CARD P.U.
I am all for voluntary HUMAN guinea pigs, I for one would NOT,but admire those who would.

REALLY, I think this says it all.....it is not approved by the FDA for this use,however,IF the human
guinea pig is playing the numbers and is WILLING to take a card.....go for it....it is a elective choice.

Which was my EXACT point.....it should be a choice, even tho U know U are in uncharted waters,
do U wish to roll the dice?